Bad AI in the wild thread

[kabbes]

Unfortunately, PR1Berske has gone, but I didn't take that as bitchy. We need these conversations. But AI isn't a replacement for effort or learning, it can enhance it. It still needs good teachers to make the most of it, not leaving a kid with a PC. I hadn't really considered kids being lazy as you've mentioned, I can see the concern, but the idea that lazy kids will use this tech to get top grades is silly.

I am passionate about it as I feel I was really let down at school. Spent many years dangling people off cliffs and hanging out underground where I didn't have to use such skills. So maybe it has been a crutch for me the last four years, but I can be that annoying kid who keeps asking questions until I understand something. And it's doing me ok.

Yes, the school system badly lets down many kids. From across the spectrum of “success”. There’s no benefit in leading a kid to straight As whilst simultaneously leaving them with perfectionism, overactive responsibilisation and the deep subjective sense that they have to please authorities all the time.

So believe me, I’m not here to defend the current system. And, to that end, I’m really not talking about kids using the system to get their grades. Grades are bunk, of use for nothing but making people believe they deserve their place in society. What I care about is not kids using AI to get grades, but using it to avoid engaging with the learning at all.

And I’ve seen it happen already, repeatedly, across kids I come into contact with. Like my 12 year-old nephew, who is savvy enough to know he doesn’t need to bother thinking about the material he’s asked to write about, because ChatGPT will just give him the words he needs instead.

 

[Combustible]

Schools ironically enough have AI software that can tell if a student has plagiarised Google or used AI.

No they don't, they have software that claims to be able to tell.

 

[Petcha]

All you should really care about as the teacher is that the students are forced to engage with the topic and think about it critically to the level of development that they are at. None of which they will do if they just give a prompt to AI and C&P the result. The end result with respect to essay quality should be largely irrelevant. The fact that our school system has this arse-forwards and only rewards the end result is part of the problem.

Saw this skit on SNL the other night...