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Autumn International Rugby 2024

Elpenor

Dancing as fast as I can
The autumn international rugby kicks off on Saturday November 2nd and continue over the rest of the November weekends. Expect lots of terrible moustaches as it’s also that time of year :thumbs:

Tv coverage is on TNT sports - this is a bad move I think. I am sure everyone remembers watching these matches on terrestrial as a kid. They are glorified friendlies and sometimes the matches are used to trial new players but the matches are often classics.

While it has been behind a paywall on Amazon prime video for the last few years, plenty of folk have that already for the deliveries and it was relatively easy to get a free month to watch the rugby for nowt. Not any more, so if you have TNT or discovery plus then you have access, if not you need to find another method.

There are a number of matches that stand out - full list below.

England have the big 3 southern hemisphere teams and Japan. I think they need to win 3 from 4 as a minimum and a statement win over New Zealand - having lost narrowly twice to them down under - would be a good start. Their squad is fairly well established now, so they need to start producing results. South Africa will be a huge challenge and an improvement from the World Cup semi final result would be huge.

Wales haven’t won a match this year and have a fairly callow squad as the rebuild continues. They simply must beat Fiji to get some momentum for the next two games. Australia who are their second opponent are also rebuilding, and beat Wales twice over the summer down under. I expect South Africa will play a more developmental team against them.

Ireland will want to exact revenge over New Zealand following their World Cup quarter final heartbreak. This will be the match they will target. It will be the last matches they play with Andy Farrell for a while as he will shortly be seconded to the British and Irish Lions. So a great chance for them to impress him ahead of the tour next year. The other games will be fairly standard, with Australia, been coached by their former boss, Joe Schmidt, the other game of interest.

Scotland have a lighter schedule with the mighty Portugal one of their games :hmm: this is a decent Scotland back line though who can turn it on if not quite back it up. I can see them beating Australia and giving South Africa a bit of a contest.

Of the teams coming up from the South, New Zealand have three big banana skins. Their new coach Scott Robertson is under a bit of pressure and his selection so far been erratic. Perhaps things will click on this tour.

South Africa have the strongest team, and a South Africa second team would beat most other teams too. They’ve started playing more expansively now they have a New Zealander as an attack coach; part of this is due to an exciting new fly half called Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu, however sadly he is injured. Aphelele Fassi has broken into the team too and he is a wonderful runner at full back.

Australia are starting to show promise but not yet results. They have a big new player, a rugby league convert called Joseph Suaalii who is an outside back (wing, centre, full back) who is yet to play a game of Union. They also have ex Leicester winger Harry Potter in their squad which the commentators must be thrilled about, the jokes just write themselves!

A couple of rule changes and God knows rugby likes to tinker with the rules - they will be trialling 20 minute red cards. So basically if you make a high tackle and it’s at the yellow card threshold you leave the field and there’s a TMO bunker review while the match continues (as happened in the last World Cup and six nations) If it’s a yellow card you come back on as usual after 10 minutes. If it’s confirmed as a red card you are off the field for 20 minutes. You will then be replaced by someone off the bench and your team go back to playing with 15 players.

Of course you can still get a straight red card but this would be for punching someone rather than a high tackle.

What it means is that a high tackle in the 2nd minute that merits a red card won’t mean a team play almost an entir match

Confused? You should be. Rugby does this to you to test your loyalty.

More usefully, referees will explain certain decisions eg yellow cards / TMO referrals this will be audible in the ground. Finally!


Saturday, November 2
  • 3.10pm: England vs New Zealand
  • 5.40pm: Scotland vs Fiji
Friday, November 8
  • 8.10pm: Ireland vs New Zealand
Saturday, November 9
  • 3.10pm: England vs Australia
  • 5.40pm: Italy vs Argentina
  • 8.10pm: France vs Japan
Sunday, November 10
  • 1.40pm: Wales vs Fiji
  • 4.10pm: Scotland vs South Africa
Friday, November 15
  • 8.10pm: Ireland vs Argentina
Saturday, November 16
  • 3.10pm: Scotland vs Portugal
  • 5.40pm: England vs South Africa
  • 8.10pm: France vs New Zealand
Sunday, November 17
  • 1.40pm: Italy vs Georgia
  • 4.10pm: Wales vs Australia
Friday, November 22
  • 8.10pm: France vs Argentina
Saturday, November 23
  • 3.10pm: Ireland vs Fiji
  • 5.40pm: Wales vs South Africa
  • 8.10pm: Italy vs New Zealand
Sunday, November 24
  • 1.40pm: Scotland vs Australia
  • 4.10pm: England vs Japan
Saturday, November 30
  • 3.10pm: Ireland vs Australia
 
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Tv coverage is on TNT sports - this is a bad move I think. I am sure everyone remembers watching these matches on terrestrial as a kid. They are glorified friendlies and sometimes the matches are used to trial new players but the matches are often classics.
Are there no matches on Freeview? I'm thinking ITV4, Quest or DMAX.
 
England v New Zealand tomorrow at 1510, I’m going to miss it but will try and catch in the evening

I have discovered that Wales matches will also be on S4C (Welsh commentary) but believe no terrestrial highlights for other matches. Which is so stupid beyond belief

YouTube or streaming sites or torrents I guess
 
Yep I've watched a few matches on S4C - they also have some of the Welsh/Scottish/Irish union club games. I don't mind the Welsh commentary too much and I watched one match with English subtitled translation which was a bonus.
 
Did anyone see the English players' response to the New Zealand Haka in the recent international League game? They stood aggressively in a line right up on the half way line. A couple of New Zealand players went right up to them and were leaning into each other touching foreheads I really expected someone to get nutted :eek:

England won that 19-7 (great match) so that didn't have too much of an effect.

Eta: Forget that it was England v Samoa, England won 34-18
 
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Did anyone see the English players' response to the New Zealand Haka in the recent international League game? They stood aggressively in a line right up on the half way line. A couple of New Zealand players went right up to them and were leaning into each other touching foreheads I really expected someone to get nutted :eek:

England won that 19-7 (great match) so that didn't have too much of an effect.
Didnt see it but ive always enjoyed seeing tbe Haka challenged. If thats not allowed they might as well go back to doing the Haka to the crowd as they used to.
 
Anyone think Marlers comment about the Haka will have any impact on the game tomorrow?
Marler is an idiot.

But he is right that the haka is a bit sanitised (can’t cross the line to challenge it or you’ll be fined) and the real drama and talking points that cut through beyond rugby fans happen when it’s responded to, which is kind of the intention as culturally it’s meant to be a challenge thrown down by Māori warriors
 
England v New Zealand tomorrow at 1510, I’m going to miss it but will try and catch in the evening

I have discovered that Wales matches will also be on S4C (Welsh commentary) but believe no terrestrial highlights for other matches. Which is so stupid beyond belief

YouTube or streaming sites or torrents I guess
Local rugby club? That's where I'm going to watch it
 
not even a rugby fan but agree it's a shame these aren't on free TV. normally good for a few minutes between football matches ;-) and I do strangely have memories of these 'autumn tests' as a sort of calendar marker.
 
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