Attendances....

[AveryDave]

Football Web Pages is a good source for that - tracks back over a number of seasons:

Dulwich Hamlet | Home Attendances | Football Web Pages

Live Football Scores, League Tables, Form Guides, Attendances, Latest News and other stats from the Premier League, Football League and Non-League football

www.footballwebpages.co.uk

Down about 16% over a similar profile of games last season and down about 13% compared to the season before that.

 

[Alex W]

Anyone know how this season's attendances so far have compared to what we've had at the same stage in recent years?

Worth remembering that attendances at Champion Hill always start low and build.

Actually, we're probably about due for the annual "September freakout about Hamlet attendances"!

 

[lwrs79]

Always slow to pick up, September onwards is usually where we get back to 2500+ be interesting to see from now how we compare. I for one am struggling with the quality of haks football.. or lack of it!

Football Web Pages is a good source for that - tracks back over a number of seasons:

Dulwich Hamlet | Home Attendances | Football Web Pages

Live Football Scores, League Tables, Form Guides, Attendances, Latest News and other stats from the Premier League, Football League and Non-League football

www.footballwebpages.co.uk

Down about 16% over a similar profile of games last season and down about 13% compared to the season before that.

 

[AveryDave]

Always slow to pick up, September onwards is usually where we get back to 2500+ be interesting to see from now how we compare. I for one am struggling with the quality of haks football.. or lack of it!

Sorry, should have been clearer - those % comparisons are over the first four games of the last couple of seasons.

There are likely a huge number of considerations as to why that might be - definitely need to see how it plays out over a longer stretch of games.

 

[Alex W]

It's also hard to make meaningful comparisons because there are so many variables.

For example, if we'd have been at home last Saturday we'd probably have had a near 3,000 crowd because of the international break, which would've made the average very impressive versus last year.

As another observation - there's a significant uptick of people behind the goal who are there for the football and the singing (rather than a chitchat), which can only be A Good Thing.

 

[Pink Panther]

It's also hard to make meaningful comparisons because there are so many variables.

For example, if we'd have been at home last Saturday we'd probably have had a near 3,000 crowd because of the international break, which would've made the average very impressive versus last year.

As another observation - there's a significant uptick of people behind the goal who are there for the football and the singing (rather than a chitchat), which can only be A Good Thing.

We've never had a 3,000+ attendance before October. Our largest September league figure by a distance in the 3 seasons since the pandemic was 2,588 against Concord on 23rd September last year. (We've generally had very few home league games in September in recent years.) The August Bank Holiday figure of 2,248 against Cray was almost identical to the last 2 years on the same bank holiday against Chatham and Welling. The FA Cup figure against Leatherhead was a few hundred down on the comparable ties against Haringey and Margate in the same round in the last 2 years. The first midweek and first Saturday league games, against Hendon and Whitehawk respectively, also down on those against Canvey and Hastings last year. These are obviously small sample sizes.

I'd say the greater worry is the risk of losing Saturday home games to opponents' cup runs. Hastings on 12th October and Wingate on 2nd November are both vulnerable to ending up on Tuesday evenings in the winter (when we won't pull much more than 1,000, if that) if those clubs reach the 4th qualifying round and 1st Round respectively. Horsham next week and Billericay on 19th October are our only "guaranteed" Saturday home games before Potters Bar on 9th November. On the other hand, we might end up playing all our home games as scheduled, and replacing trips to Lewes and Folkestone with home FA Trophy ties.

 

[lwrs79]

Do love a cold Tuesday under the lights though… not so good for the club but better for the purest!

I also feel like we do quite well on Tuesday nights vs Saturdays for some weird reason!

We've never had a 3,000+ attendance before October. Our largest September league figure by a distance in the 3 seasons since the pandemic was 2,588 against Concord on 23rd September last year. (We've generally had very few home league games in September in recent years.) The August Bank Holiday figure of 2,248 against Cray was almost identical to the last 2 years on the same bank holiday against Chatham and Welling. The FA Cup figure against Leatherhead was a few hundred down on the comparable ties against Haringey and Margate in the same round in the last 2 years. The first midweek and first Saturday league games, against Hendon and Whitehawk respectively, also down on those against Canvey and Hastings last year. These are obviously small sample sizes.

I'd say the greater worry is the risk of losing Saturday home games to opponents' cup runs. Hastings on 12th October and Wingate on 2nd November are both vulnerable to ending up on Tuesday evenings in the winter (when we won't pull much more than 1,000, if that) if those clubs reach the 4th qualifying round and 1st Round respectively. Horsham next week and Billericay on 19th October are our only "guaranteed" Saturday home games before Potters Bar on 9th November. On the other hand, we might end up playing all our home games as scheduled, and replacing trips to Lewes and Folkestone with home FA Trophy ties.

 

[scousedom]

Do love a cold Tuesday under the lights though… not so good for the club but better for the purest!

This.

 

[Paula_G]

August is full on festival season, so you’re always going to lose a large selection of the Claphamites who’ve packed the Fjällräven backpack and portable yurt before hoping Glastonbury, Wilderness or Latitude.

 

[EDC]

August is full on festival season, so you’re always going to lose a large selection of the Claphamites who’ve packed the Fjällräven backpack and portable yurt before hoping Glastonbury, Wilderness or Latitude.

Plus Boomtown on the first day of the season.

 

[Paula_G]

Plus Boomtown on the first day of the season.

I don’t like Saturdays?

 

[jimbarkanoodle]

August is full on festival season, so you’re always going to lose a large selection of the Claphamites who’ve packed the Fjällräven backpack and portable yurt before hoping Glastonbury, Wilderness or Latitude.

Also there is an annual dip in February/March time where the large selection of Claphamites spend their Saturdays on a pre booked table in a gastropub watching 'the rugger'.

 

[Pink Panther]

Don't forget the annual dip early in the year when the 6 nations is on, where hundreds of

Also there is an annual dip in February/March time where the large selection of Claphamites spend their Saturdays on a pre booked table in a gastropub watching 'the rugger'.

Do we really get "a large selection of Claphamites" at any of our games? No wonder we see so many ill informed comments from opposition supporters when our own supporters peddle this sort of nonsense.

We have a relatively young and affluent demographic compared to the traditional non-league fanbase. A lot of them take an interest in the Hamlet and enjoy going to regular games without being fanatical about attending every game, or travelling to away games. Yes, a significant number probably have other interests that take priority on some Saturdays, whether that's music festivals or international rugby but so what? I find it odd that people make disparaging remarks about this element, when (in terms of attendance at our games) they're no different to those who've always watched a Premier/Football League club on some Saturdays, or missed a few games for more mundane domestic reasons.

The annual dip for the 6 Nations, like the lower figures for early season Saturdays and midwinter evenings, is a trend that happens every year therefore it has no real bearing on the seasonal average.

 

[wphillips7]

Do we really get "a large selection of Claphamites" at any of our games? No wonder we see so many ill informed comments from opposition supporters when our own supporters peddle this sort of nonsense.

We have a relatively young and affluent demographic compared to the traditional non-league fanbase. A lot of them take an interest in the Hamlet and enjoy going to regular games without being fanatical about attending every game, or travelling to away games. Yes, a significant number probably have other interests that take priority on some Saturdays, whether that's music festivals or international rugby but so what? I find it odd that people make disparaging remarks about this element, when (in terms of attendance at our games) they're no different to those who've always watched a Premier/Football League club on some Saturdays, or missed a few games for more mundane domestic reasons.

The annual dip for the 6 Nations, like the lower figures for early season Saturdays and midwinter evenings, is a trend that happens every year therefore it has no real bearing on the seasonal average.

Spot on PP

 

[scousedom]

Do we really get "a large selection of Claphamites" at any of our games?

This is not a scientific sample - and depends as does much on life on your definition of “large” - but based on the 25-30yos in my office who talk about having gone to the Hamlet(s) on the weekend then yeah you do. And they all live in Clapham.

This isn’t a value judgement on whether that’s good/bad. But I don’t think you can deny its existence.

 

[Taper]

It's the wankers from Forest Hill I don't like.

 

[scousedom]

It's the wankers from Forest Hill I don't like.

Especially the ones that like rugby.

 

[Taper]

Fat bastards

 

[jimbarkanoodle]

Do we really get "a large selection of Claphamites" at any of our games? No wonder we see so many ill informed comments from opposition supporters when our own supporters peddle this sort of nonsense.

We have a relatively young and affluent demographic compared to the traditional non-league fanbase. A lot of them take an interest in the Hamlet and enjoy going to regular games without being fanatical about attending every game, or travelling to away games. Yes, a significant number probably have other interests that take priority on some Saturdays, whether that's music festivals or international rugby but so what? I find it odd that people make disparaging remarks about this element, when (in terms of attendance at our games) they're no different to those who've always watched a Premier/Football League club on some Saturdays, or missed a few games for more mundane domestic reasons.

The annual dip for the 6 Nations, like the lower figures for early season Saturdays and midwinter evenings, is a trend that happens every year therefore it has no real bearing on the seasonal average.

Sorry i touched a nerve by my dig at people who live in Clapham, but seeing as we agree that there is indeed a dip in attendance during the 6 Nations, i dont think im peddling nonsense. Alright, not all of them live in Clapham. Plenty of middle classes in Brixton these days who love rugby (check out The Duke of Edinburgh around 6 Nations time ), and further afield but still within the Hamlet catchment area. Their attendance doesn't really bother me, its quite amusing and i've long accepted it is a feature of the makeup of the Hamlet crowd these days and has been for some time.

It only gets annoying when im watching the match and the people from Clapham/Brixton/Honor Oak Park have their backs to the game and are discussing work or holidays and couldn't care less about the match, until a player makes a mistake and they all guffaw about 'how fucking shit this football is'. Oh, and also in January when they stand in groups clutching cans of 0% Guinness, crowing about their alcohol abstinence.

 

[Taper]

Now that's a group we can all hate. Dry Januaryites.