Apple new product rumours and general news

[Kid_Eternity]

You're doing it again! Stop!

Lol and so are you!

 

[elbows]

 

[editor]

Lol probably would help his mental health if he didn't spend too much time on threads that rile him up so much!

Making comments about my mental health is utterly despicable, but I'm not going to respond. Instead, I'll repeat this one more time:

"Now please do everyone a favour here and just don't respond, react or reference any of my posts from now on, and I'd be delighted to do the same. Thanks."

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Despicable? Compared to your behavior its practically an act of virtue!

 

[twentythreedom]

iPad209 ftw

 

[Crispy]

Look, I came here for an argument, this is just contradiction

 

[Kid_Eternity]

iPad209 ftw

You have twenty seconds to comply?

 

[editor]

Apple has now "surpassed $600bn (£379bn) in value for the first time, affirming its position as the most valuable US firm in the world."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17669078

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Looks like its going to make history by becoming the first Trillion dollar company sooner than later...incredible feat given its a minority in the computer and phone markets...

 

[elbows]

Well its a minority market share but a majority of profit share. Or at least that was the case with smartphone market at some point in recent years if the study I read was accurate.

But now certainly isn't the time I would choose to buy Apple shares (if I ever actually bought shares, which I don't). Although their value could continue to soar, its already gone up by so much so quickly that everyone has noticed, and this is often a time when people are arriving to the party too late.

No predictions from me that they will become a trillion dollar company because I have no faith in the global economic outlook. They've weathered it excellently to date and may very well make it to further giddy heights, but they are so exposed to consumer sentiment, and there have been enough big IT crashes in the past that happened quickly for me to avoid making assumptions about the only way being up.

 

[maldwyn]

There's one hell of a bubble about to burst... and not just Apple.

 

[Structaural]

Woz is on Ebay.

 

[2hats]

Woz is on Ebay.

Post and packaging on him must be quite high? Or maybe he just delivers himself by segway?

 

[maldwyn]

Greenpeace slam Apple for dirty energy.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/17/apple-cloud-computing-coal-greenpeace

 

[sim667]

Greenpeace slam Apple for dirty energy.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/17/apple-cloud-computing-coal-greenpeace

But it seems greanpeace are simply guessing.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

But it seems greanpeace are simply guessing.

Greenpeace are beyond criticism, they'd never just make stuff up to further their agenda.

 

[editor]

Greenpeace's agenda being the environment and Apple's agenda being more fat profit for themselves.

 

[editor]

But it seems greanpeace are simply guessing.

That might be because Apple usually refuses to supply any figures.

 

[pinkychukkles]

Guy takes Apple to a small claims court... and they actually send two lawyers there to defend the case... but lose.

Seattle Rex vs. Apple: The Verdict Is In

A few years ago, Apple sold me a $4,000 computer with a defective graphics chip/logic board. The defective part was the Nvidia 8600M GT GPU, and when it was discovered that the machine was defective, Apple refused to take it back and issue me a refund. Instead, they promised to replace the 8600M GT boards when they failed, up to 4 years from the date of purchase.

Three years later, the board failed, and predictably, Apple refused to replace it. Instead, they used the fact that the machine wouldn’t boot (due to the failed logic board) to deny the repair. Not only that, but in addition, they tried to charge me a hefty sum of money to have it replaced, knowing full well that Nvidia pays for the full repair cost.

Three and a half months ago, after having my repair denied, I announced on this very site that I was going to sue Apple. Reading these lawsuit threats often, many people assumed that I was bluffing or blowing off steam, but true to my word, I did exactly what I said I was going to do. I sued Apple.

...

What I don’t understand, however, is why Apple fought so hard against me when they were clearly in the wrong. It wasn’t even a judgement call. I knew they were wrong, the judge knew they were wrong, the clerk knew it, the audience knew it, and you could tell … you could just tell that Apple knew it as well.

And what of the shareholders? What should they make of this? Apple’s stock has been an E-ticket ride lately, but this incident should really give shareholders pause. I mean, what kind of judgement are the current leaders of Apple using?

Think about it … instead of repairing my computer under the repair program that they, themselves, announced … at absolutely no cost to themselves … Apple paid two guys to come to Downtown Seattle, and … well … lie, so that I would not have a non-defective computer. When you factor in the time it took them to get here, the time spent in court, and the time to get home, Apple paid two guys a day’s wages to defend this suit.

In addition, instead of paying nothing for the repair, they paid a legal team to oversee the case, and, oh yeah … you guys, the shareholders, are buying me a new computer too. Thanks.

As far as I can tell, Apple spent all of this time and money, solely to be a bully. Was that really money well-spent? I mean, you can almost excuse the holy wars against Adobe, Samsung, Android, and the prototype guys … but a local blogger?

The obsessiveness of crushing all perceived enemies, no matter how big or small, regardless of whether they are wrong or right, should be of concern to all iFans and financiers. It’s getting to the point where it’s really, really just sick.

Gone are the days of the scrappy underdog, throwing a hammer through the window of conformity, and what has emerged is … well, it’s far worse than what it was rebelling against.

Apple has become the Orwellian nightmare that it warned us about some 30 years ago. A huge vehicle of sameness backed by legions of newthink practitioners, gleefully cheering as Big Bully annihilates one thoughtcriminal after another.

Apple may be profitable, but it’s not well. Something is wrong at the highest levels, and if I was strongly tied to the company financially, I might be worried. Although blinded by Apple’s success in the near-term, I don’t think history will judge the company favorably.

I use a mac (and a pc to lesser extent) but stuff like this does give you pause for thought (amongst others); hope they get a class action suit together for this.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Heh

 

[sim667]

That might be because Apple usually refuses to supply any figures.

Which is the perfect excuse to plug some figures out of the air yeah?

 

[editor]

Which is the perfect excuse to plug some figures out of the air yeah?

They have explained their methodology and Apple can't complain if they refuse to release the kind of figures that other companies are happy to offer. Besides, Apple's poor environmental record speaks for itself. With their obscene levels of profit and status as an aspirational company, they should be leading by example, not trying to conceal the truth.

 

[sim667]

Er...... you still shouldnt be publishing guesstimates.

Im pretty sure if I went around publishing 'guesstimates' under the guise of them being fact about people all over the internet I'd end up in quite a lot of shit. This doesnt seem to be applying to greenpeace in this situation. Not that I'm disagreeing with greenpeace, they're probably right.

 

[editor]

Er...... you still shouldnt be publishing guesstimates.

Im pretty sure if I went around publishing 'guesstimates' under the guise of them being fact about people all over the internet I'd end up in quite a lot of shit. This doesnt seem to be applying to greenpeace in this situation. Not that I'm disagreeing with greenpeace, they're probably right.

The simple fact remains that they have committed to using more coal-sourced dirty energy than many of their rivals. If you want to defend that, feel free.

 

[peterkro]

I don't want to put in a position where I'm defending Apple (if the rumour about them ditching the 17" MacBookPro is true my next computer will be a Hackintosh ) however Greenpeace are targeting them (rightly) because they know it'll have some effect and put pressure on others:

Apple noted earlier this week in response to aGreenpeace report on data centers being powered by coal-derived energy that it intends for its Prineville data center to run on "100% renewable energy".

Apple just recently opened another data center in Maiden, North Carolina, where the company has indicated that it plans to spend $1 billion. The company is building a 20-megawatt solar farm and a 5-megawatt fuel cell facility at the data center, two of the largest privately-owned renewable energy projects of their kind in the country.

 

[sim667]

The simple fact remains that they have committed to using more coal-sourced dirty energy than many of their rivals. If you want to defend that, feel free.

Im not defending it, but you are defending making stuff up then publishing it.....

 

[editor]

Im not defending it, but you are defending making stuff up then publishing it.....

Is their main source of power for this new plant coal powered or not? Have they made less of a commitment to renewable energy sources than some other companies?

 

[sim667]

Are greenpeace using fabricated data to support what they're claiming?

 

[editor]

Are greenpeace using fabricated data to support what they're claiming?

It doesn't matter if their guestimate is not entirely accurate or not. What is important that Apple's commitment to dirty energy is widely publicised, particularly in light of their secrecy, their obscene levels of wealth and their status as the richest and hippest tech company on the planet.

 

[sim667]

It doesn't matter if they're guesstimate is accurate, but it does matter that they're making statements based on unsubstantiated evidence, it's a cheap tactic, and to my mind does not further their cause.

If the point was made using verifiable facts then if probably sit up and listen. I could go round slandering all sorts of companies based on unsubstantiated evidence portrayed as fact, but that would be unfair.....