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Crispy said:
Samsung is also a heavy engineering company, and all sorts of other stuff. Not an apples to apples comparison. Pun intended right in your face :p
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thats kind of my point... different arms of the same company.

i just don't really see why Ed obsesses so much about one tech company that produces mp3 players, phones and computers but doesnt seem to be too fussed by another with the exact same business model that is also massively in bed with the oil and arms industries

both worth about $300 billion on paper, both donating fuck all in relation to their earnings to charity, both using Foxconn to assemble their goods.

Apple have loads of cash and are smug. Samsung are knocking out robots equipped with machine guns for $200K. basically they're Cyberdyne Systems in comparison ;)

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http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/13/south-korea-enlists-armed-sentry-robots-to-patrol-dmz/
 
I suspect its Apples particular flavour of bullshit, and the drooling reaction of a small segment of consumers which made editor focus on them with such passionate fury. The actual detail of what these companies do or do not do is a secondary concern that can be brushed to one side. As I have a low opinion of corporations in general and they deal with each other so much in supply chains etc, I cannot bring myself to invest that much energy to battle over this, I snipe from time to time and then go do something else, marvelling at how cool the tech is whilst also shaking my head at how much of it has its roots in military hardware.
 
sim667 said:
Samsung makes arms too dont they? Or arms components.
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And Apple equip the US military.

The point is that Apple make the most money yet give back the least, despite their hugely powerful position of wealth, influence and coolness.

And that riles me.
 
pesh said:
both worth about $300 billion on paper, both donating fuck all in relation to their earnings to charity, both using Foxconn to assemble their goods.
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Apple just give none, full stop. It's their stated company policy, as introduced by that smug selfish cunt Steve Jobs who dared use images of Gandhi to further his profits.

Samsung are a bunch of cunts too, but at least they give something back.
 
Despite my frequent sneering at your poorly disguised hatred for Apple and Jobs, I can fully appreciate why that particular type of person fills you with such hate. Both in word and in deed there is much not to admire about Jobs, to say the least.

Speaking more generally there are certain aspects of American cultural norms which have magnified a range of unattractive ideas and personalities for over a century. Combine a rather brash and vulgar (by closeted and understated European standards) manner of expression with the trappings of a country that was dominant and in the driving seat for so long, along with specific ideas about capitalism and freedom, and it is hardly any wonder that the last century is littered with a variety of ugly Americans that have consumed us with horror & hate.Some of them gave as well as took, but even then its reasonable to be unconvinced that what we got was worth the cost, if not to us then to someone else.

On the other hand faceless corporations can appear more sinister to me, and I've no idea why you wanted Jobs to be more philanthropic when we stop for a moment to consider what that would have done to his levels of smugness and the sugar-coated corporate image, let alone what wacky projects he'd probably have wanted to funnel money to if he had been that way inclined. Hell half my problem with the very concept of large amounts of wealth being accumulated is the power that comes from choosing how to spend it. Ideally such accumulations would be made impossible in the first place, but absent that eventuality I have to favour taxing away the money so that at least institutions which should in theory be accountable to people get to choose what to do with it.
 
elbows said:
On the other hand faceless corporations can appear more sinister to me, and I've no idea why you wanted Jobs to be more philanthropic when we stop for a moment to consider what that would have done to his levels of smugness and the sugar-coated corporate image, let alone what wacky projects he'd probably have wanted to funnel money to if he had been that way inclined.
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I want all massively successful, stinking rich companies to be more philanthropic*

(*given we're unlikely to see any alternative socio-political changes that will result in the wealth being shared more equally. The fact that richest of the lot doesn't give a fucking penny is something that should have people condemning Apple, not fawning all over them).
 
editor said:
And Apple equip the US military.
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i think there is a subtle difference between trying to flog the US Airforce a load of iPads and actually building and selling Terminators :D

do they come with Beats Audio is what i want to know.
 
yeah, but 1 of them shoots bullets at you, the other is a laptop.

if it was the other way round you would be having a field day.
 
pesh said:
i think there is a subtle difference between trying to flog the US Airforce a load of iPads and actually building and selling Terminators :D

do they come with Beats Audio is what i want to know.
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Don't you mean iTerminators?:D
 
pesh said:
yeah, but 1 of them shoots bullets at you, the other is a laptop.
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Seems you still don't understand even the fundamentals of warfare.

I've already said that I think both companies are a bunch of cunts, but at least Samsung don't spirit up Gandhi in their adverts to shift their products while giving fuck all back.
 
What are the fundamentals of warfare? Is it that if you go into battle against a 5.56mm robotic machine gun, armed only with The World's Greatest Tablet Computer, you'll be fundamentally killed?
 
mauvais said:
What are the fundamentals of warfare? Is it that if you go into battle against a 5.56mm robotic machine gun, armed only with The World's Greatest Tablet Computer, you'll be fundamentally killed?
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure modern warfare is all about supply lines, logistics, intelligence gathering, data analysis and all that techie computery kinda stuff rather than just handing out weapons and saying, "off you go, brave soldier!".
 
Crispy said:
Sun Tzu?
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Oracle Tzu now.

editor said:
Is that likely to happen then?
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To me? Or to Iraqis and North Koreans?

editor said:
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure modern warfare is all about supply lines, logistics, intelligence gathering, data analysis and all that techie computery kinda stuff rather than just handing out weapons and saying, "off you go, brave soldier!".
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What you've described there is easyJet.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
You've done a great job of not bothering with that tedious line of 'debate' too...
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*checks*
Nope. It wasn't me posting up pictures of Samsung Killer Robots in a thread about Apple, but you certainly joined right in. :rolleyes: :facepalm:

Now please do everyone a favour here and just don't respond, react or reference any of my posts from now on, and I'd be delighted to do the same. Thanks.
 
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