Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[editor]

I would have thought that the inflated internet use would be similar on both platforms. Although android wins due to the abscence of profit-sharing terms with the manufacturer.

The HUGE difference is the cut of revenues that Apple grabs off the mobile operators. No other phone manufacturer demands this.

O2 wins Apple iPhone deal - at a hefty price

The UK's largest mobile operator came from behind at the last minute to seal an agreement with Steve Jobs, Apple's chief executive, to market the iPhone in the UK, but one other operator described the deal as "madly money-losing".

O2 is understood to have agreed a margin on the retail price - to be confirmed tomorrow - but will return to Apple as much as 40% of any revenues it makes from customers' use of the device.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/sep/17/mobilephones.apple

 

[editor]

My remark wasn't aimed specifically at you, but at people in general who use graphics as a measuring stick for judging a game.

Hey, I've got a Wii not a Playstation and I think the best computer games ever made were for the Amiga, so I think it's fair to say that I'm not one to discount games based on less than stellar graphics.

The point was that for a device that sells itself on its sheer eye-candy gloss and super-slick operation, the game looked very disappointing.

 

[Sunray]

Oh come on: portable battery packs are OK for extended breaks away (I've got two of them by Proporta), but they're considerably more bulky than replacement batteries and not the kind of thing you can pop in your pocket.

Mine is smaller than my iPhone and lighter too, so yes it slips into my pocket.

I'm with Crispy, complex graphics on small devices aren't the way to go really and game play is king.

Look at Geometry Wars on the XBox for a great example of that.

 

[editor]

Mine is smaller than my iPhone and lighter too, so yes it slips into my pocket.

Yes. But it is still considerably more bulky and bigger than a battery. Which one are you using? Does it have cables too?

I can't see how anyone can reasonably argue that it's not a good thing to have user replaceable batteries.

 

[Sunray]

Yes. But it is still considerably more bulky and bigger than a battery. Which one are you using? Does it have cables too?

I can't see how anyone can reasonably argue that it's not a good thing to have user replaceable batteries.

That's not what I am arguing, I'm saying that its not the issue you are making it out to be.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

My remark wasn't aimed specifically at you, but at people in general who use graphics as a measuring stick for judging a game.

Yep, never a wise thing to do (as Tetris shows).

 

[editor]

That's not what I am arguing, I'm saying that its not the issue you are making it out to be.

It's a factor for me when I'm buying a phone. What charger are you using now?

 

[Sunray]

It's a factor for me when I'm buying a phone. What charger are you using now?

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/index.cfm?reviewid=2134

 

[editor]

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/index.cfm?reviewid=2134

So it costs about five times more than a regular battery, it's heavier and a lot bulkier (3.9” by 2.5” by 0.55” ) and you have to cart around a USB lead as well.

Overall, it's not exactly full of win compared to a regular battery swap, is it?

 

[Sunray]

I only carry the cable and the pack when I need it. If that runs out of power then I'm out.

I have no choice if I want to own an iPhone and there is no better phone out there by miles for me so I am not bothered.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

By the way, I ended up buying Rolando given that I was in the mood to play games and it had about 150 reviews with an average of five stars, and it's boss.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I ended up buying Rolando... it's boss.

I honestly don't know if by that you mean it's good or bad

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I honestly don't know if by that you mean it's good or bad

It's skill.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

It's skill.

Ah, now you're talking

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I can further confirm that
(a) it has the coolest level select thing ever - a big pop-up book opens, and you zoom around the different levels to the right one;
(b) it has in-game music by Mr Scruff, and plants in the level bop back and forwards in time to it;
(c) while mostly the controls are good, it's easy to accidentally deselect all your rolandos with just a feather touch somewhere.

 

[editor]

More ridiculous shenanigans from the censoring power freaks at Apple:

E-book barred from App Store due to obscene content

Gee, willickers. More App Store madness. In case you needed even more evidence that the whole approval process in Cupertino was in complete disarray, David Carnoy's "contemporary medical thriller" has been rejected from Apple's App Store twice now. The first time it was returned to sender due to a few bugs in the coding; the second time, it was rejected due to the inclusion of "obscene content." Despite all of this, certain apps like iFart and Pull My Finger are allowed to remain, though it stands to reason that those programs are just as "obscene" as a few dirty words and sexual innuendos. Alexandru Brie, a developer and one of the first publishers of e-books to the App Store, feels that "each of Apple's reviewers can interpret the obscene, pornographic or defamatory content clause in a different way." Clearly, he's right

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/24/e-book-barred-from-app-store-due-to-obscene-content/

User comments:

Every time I see an article like this, I get a glimmer of hope that people might stop buying Apple products on principle. But the sales numbers just don't bear out. I guess the average consumer doesn't mind DRM, whimsical content moderation and substandard hardware quality as long as the device looks "sexy"....

....Is it me or Apple getting more and more obnoxious with their antics? They went from rebel cool to grandpa strict over the past years it seems.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

They're a company like all others, this attitude they were once some 'rebel' corporation is bloody strange...

 

[Sunray]

Its a bizarre decision but their weird attitude does not seem to be stopping stacks of applications hitting the store on a daily basis.

 

[Sunray]

Been using the phone on the train and when moving Edge is very fast, much faster than 3g. Best to switch off 3g if your moving fast.

 

[AnIdiot]

So I got an iPhone for christmas and I quite like it! Is there anyway to download apps withou using iTunes? Thanks

 

[paolo]

No.

What's up with iTunes, for you?

 

[AnIdiot]

can't seem to be able to create an iTunes account using the iPhone and am at the inlaws so can't download any apps!

How are you btw? Still doing your urban exploration?

 

[Sunray]

Its best to set it up on the computer you will be using with the phone most of the time because it syncs it with that computer and you can only sync with one at a time.

Nice prez btw.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I thought you download the apps direct to your phone?

 

[Sunray]

You have to register the phone on the desktop iTunes when you 1st start. You have to supply a credit/debit card to allow them to charge you.

 

[AnIdiot]

Thanks! Am going to have to wait awhile as the old laptop has sadly died.

Kid eternity, you're right you have to download the apps to your phone but you need to have an iTunes account.

 

[paolo]

How are you btw? Still doing your urban exploration?

Yep. Had a fun time underground in Paris again a month back. Always good down there.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Its best to set it up on the computer you will be using with the phone most of the time because it syncs it with that computer and you can only sync with one at a time.

You have to synch it to a single computer?

How archaic

 

[DexterTCN]

please update your itouch software.

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dead

 

[Crispy]

Posted from my new touch
Nothing else to say. Just feeling new-gadget smug