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ChrisFilter said:
Not trolling, just curious: is it true that on the iPhone there's no multi-tasking? I.E. you can't leave your mp3s playing whilst you're in Google Maps or writing a text?
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The iPhone SDK will not allow 3rd party apps to multitask or run background services but - much like the Palm - you can do some forms of multitasking, like receiving mail in the background and playing music while accessing other programs.
http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/03/17/multitask-masters-brain-surgeon-stat/

Windows Mobile can do true multitasking but it's debatable whether it's such a great idea as it's easy to slow the phone down to a crawl with lots of apps open.

Edit: elsewhere, Apple have had their UK iPhone ad pulled for misleading punters about its speed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7749435.stm
 
ChrisFilter said:
Not trolling, just curious: is it true that on the iPhone there's no multi-tasking? I.E. you can't leave your mp3s playing whilst you're in Google Maps or writing a text?
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...starting writing this before ed's reply..

No third party app is allowed to background. But Apple's apps can - the ipod player will keep playing, Safari will stay in the background for a number of seconds to see if you'll return to the app, the phone.app is always runnning, the Mail.app leaves something running to alert to emails. But all other apps must quit completely when you press the home button (or will be forced-quited if you hold it down). Which doesn't allow the same running field for devs, but seriously saves the battery. They thought that that with push (which still hasn't been properly implemented beyond Apple's apps again) would stop the need for backgrounding. Which is bollocks, for some stuff you need it.
I think it should be up to the user, personally, also whether I want to cane my 3G network should be up to how much I want to pay my phone company.

Resources are scarce, the music player often stutters when using safari heavily. But hardly anyone writes good optimised code these days. It does seem a bit sharper after the update, but I've found a bug, auto-screen brightness will darken the screen to black if you activate the phone in a dark room (our bedroom is competely black).
 
Kid_Eternity said:
A mate of mine just got one, he hates it, it keeps crashing so he's sending it back this week to get an iPhone (he's a long time Blackberry user too)!
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:D I can see that they thought they needed to combat the iPhone but they should have stuck to their strengths or done a slide out keyboard.
 
Only in as much as you have access to using something other than your finger for touch.

This is one of the iPhones great moments, their choice of a capacitive touch screen (for visual clarity) ensure that they have no fall back to a stylus for interface elements, ensuring the interface is for fingers only. Their % area covered algorithm is mega win for selecting web links easily even when fully zoomed out and the links are minuscule, just about 1st time every time.

Also ensures that having it in the bag unlocked is unlikely to do anything untoward like call your mates New Zealand mobile by accident.
 
Pod casts. Today I've been lapping up the pod casts which I can now download on the iPhones iTunes application. Nice alternative to music while I am working.

How MANY of these things are there!!! I think I could never hear whats out there for this week alone in an entire lifetimes listening.

*drowns in a sea of content*
 
Sunray said:
Only in as much as you have access to using something other than your finger for touch.

This is one of the iPhones great moments, their choice of a capacitive touch screen (for visual clarity) ensure that they have no fall back to a stylus for interface elements, ensuring the interface is for fingers only. Their % area covered algorithm is mega win for selecting web links easily even when fully zoomed out and the links are minuscule, just about 1st time every time.

Also ensures that having it in the bag unlocked is unlikely to do anything untoward like call your mates New Zealand mobile by accident.
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I like having the option to gently wipe away a little bit of dust off the screen without interrupting a video. Reviews suggest that the Touch HD is in a minority in that it's very sensitive so doesn't require any effort to activate.
 
If you had a really *stiff* PC keyboard, you could clean it without accidentally pressing any keys. Would you want that? I wouldn't.
 
The battery life is the main thing putting me off. It'll have to be 2x or 3x for me to even consider it.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
It can't be worse than the Centro, and if I can live with that I'm sure the iPhone won't be that bad...
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Difference is, you can just sling a couple of tiny batteries in your bag for the Centro and you're covered for the longest of days out.

Not possible with the iPhone.

(PS Are you using Power Hero on the Centro? That makes a huge difference - I've never run out of juice yet),
 
editor said:
Difference is, you can just sling a couple of tiny batteries in your bag for the Centro and you're covered for the longest of days out.

Not possible with the iPhone.

(PS Are you using Power Hero on the Centro? That makes a huge difference - I've never run out of juice yet),
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Instead just sling my power pack into my bag. Slim and light. 3 days later I will run out of juice. Splitting hairs and not really worth a mention.

When my battery dies is when the story changes. I decided that by then I would probably be looking at the new Apple (and now Android) phones anyway.
 
Anyone know of powerpack type thingies with a mini USB output that would fit my G1?

I'm getting a days use out of it at the moment, but there have been a couple of days where it's been bloody close, and if I'd been doing more with the GPS I'd have run out.
 
Sunray said:
Instead just sling my power pack into my bag. Slim and light. 3 days later I will run out of juice. Splitting hairs and not really worth a mention.
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*hand waggle* - you're still constrained more than you would be with a replaceable battery. How long does it take to drain the power pack and get the phone back up to full charge? Cos during that time, you're going to be pluggin and unplugging it each time you take a call.
 
editor said:
Difference is, you can just sling a couple of tiny batteries in your bag for the Centro and you're covered for the longest of days out.

Not possible with the iPhone.

(PS Are you using Power Hero on the Centro? That makes a huge difference - I've never run out of juice yet),
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That's a fair point although like I said if it's the same or slightly better I could live with it. Nah, tried the trial and didn't buy (as I'd bought a few too many apps at the time)...
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
Anyone know of powerpack type thingies with a mini USB output that would fit my G1?

I'm getting a days use out of it at the moment, but there have been a couple of days where it's been bloody close, and if I'd been doing more with the GPS I'd have run out.
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Blimey, you're doing well. Every review I read said you're lucky to get a day out of the G1.

it's expensive, but the Power Monkey is very useful and comes with a million adapters.
 
Crispy said:
*hand waggle* - you're still constrained more than you would be with a replaceable battery. How long does it take to drain the power pack and get the phone back up to full charge? Cos during that time, you're going to be pluggin and unplugging it each time you take a call.
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I can fully charge my iPhone from dead on the power pack I have in about 30min. Having it plugged in isn't so much of a problem tbh, can still use it while its charging, don't have to unplug. Cables doesn't get in the way really. I was pleasantly surprised how unobtrusive it was plugged in. Get two charges out of it.

This is the one I use Bee's, quite happy its very light 90g and a bit smaller and thinner than the iPhone with a nice glossy plastic case. You can charge it from a PC if you want with the correct cable. USB only.

http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=UPB10
 
Got two spares for my G1 now. Less than £6 each inc postage. Fookin' brilliant. They're so small you can store them comfortably between your arse cheeks.
 
Sunray said:
I can fully charge my iPhone from dead on the power pack I have in about 30min.
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Ah, but there's a difference between the phone saying it's full and it being full. A phone battery says it's full after charging for 30 mins, but it rarely anything more than 30% full in reality. Bit like the first charge thing.
 
Well, I got 3 days of use out of it at Bestival with the power pack, cant remember if that was pre or post 2.1 either.
 
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