ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Thems opinions not facts
True, though I've no doubt that speed and accuracy tests would always fall in favour of hardware keyboards. Imagine a touch screen keyboard on a regular PC, it'd be shit.
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True, though I've no doubt that speed and accuracy tests would always fall in favour of hardware keyboards. Imagine a touch screen keyboard on a regular PC, it'd be shit.
I can type fastest on a desktop keyboard.
Next fastest on iPhone
Slowest - nearly impossible - on (other phone) hardkey keyboard.
I've not really used the latter very much, so it's not really 'proof' of anything, but just making it clear that the keyboard style is not the sole factor. Experience - for me at least - counts for alot.
Next fastest on iPhone
Slowest - nearly impossible - on (other phone) hardkey keyboard.
I've not really used the latter very much, so it's not really 'proof' of anything, but just making it clear that the keyboard style is not the sole factor. Experience - for me at least - counts for alot.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Watch and weep, iFans: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiw5PsQ50Uc 
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
No! That looks fucking brilliant 
retro defo.
eta
it's selling on guardian for £209!
http://www.guardianoffers.co.uk/mal...ers/_IPODBOOMBOX/-/Lasonic-i931-Ipod-Boombox-
eta
it's selling on guardian for £209!
http://www.guardianoffers.co.uk/mal...ers/_IPODBOOMBOX/-/Lasonic-i931-Ipod-Boombox-
FridgeMagnet
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I must say that I was surprised how quickly I picked up typing on the iTouch - I'm already faster than I was on the Palm, and I'm a Graffiti expert of several years' running. The auto-correct is good (in most cases) and makes up for the rather poor cursor movement mechanism, since you rarely need to go backwards.
It does pale into comparison when you see two-thumbed Blackberryists though.
It does pale into comparison when you see two-thumbed Blackberryists though.
Lazy Llama
Suburban robots that monitor reality
djbombscare
Plays with knives
I know, I just found out.
Update was out this morning WOOOHOOO
tell ya what there feck all wrong with apples custoemr service. I dindt even have to emaiil them. All I had to do was have a rant on here and looks what happens.
Right for my next trick. . . world peace ?
Update was out this morning WOOOHOOO
tell ya what there feck all wrong with apples custoemr service. I dindt even have to emaiil them. All I had to do was have a rant on here and looks what happens.
Right for my next trick. . . world peace ?
editor
hiraethified
Could you ask them to loosen their power-mad grip over App development and put in a keyboard please?
I'll buy one then.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
Anything good in that update? - haven't synced mine for a couple of days.
My mini review:
I like my iPhone. I've had it about three months now.
I can see if you're already a smartphone user you'll find it lacking but as a disgruntled Nokia 'normal' phone user (and mac user) who upgraded, I think it's superb. I occasionally miss C&P but you can always bookmark a webpage, email or add it as an icon to the main page, I never used MMS, I take a rare photo with a phone (I carry an pocket camera normally anyway) and never use phone video. But I can see that would be annoying for some.
The Maps.app I reckon is better for me than TomTom as that's more for driving, Maps is far more useful in terms of knowing about local stuff and integration with loads of other iPhone apps. I don't drive so I couldn't care less about TomTom personally, though I wouldn't be surprised if they're working on an app, considering the money they could make (and having met the wanker of an MD how bloody obsessed he is with Apple). Got me out many a pickle in a recent trip with the family to France, found a hotel with it, and helped when we kept getting lost in Paris. Though the 200 euros roaming bill for just internet usage was a surprise! I was only there for 5 days...
It even shows coffeeshops in Amsterdam, I found a new one round the corner. I look forward to the update (though street view is no good to anyone unless you live in Lyon or Paris). GoogleEarth works beautifully if you don't need any overlays.
The interface is a joy and the anti-aliased type easy on the eyes. I can't even look at a windows browser these days. There's some lovely games on it - Xplane and Fastlane for two, though I use Tetris the most. I recently installed Jaadu, an excellent VNC client (though one of my pet peeves is the lack of backgrounding so I can't run an SSH tunnel at the same time-unless I jailbreak), it works quicker over 3G to my home computer than Chicken OTV does on my work desktop. I was adding torrents on the train this morning and typing in the Terminal. Also using a free Google app called GoogleRemote/telekinesis that lets me access my entire home folder structure, so I can open PDFs and stream quicktime movies.
The fact it syncs almost everything with my home and work mac is really useful, and because I used to spend an inordinant amount of time in the garden smoking spliffs, browsing and video watching worked pretty flawlessly, though Safari crashes a bit too often with lots of images. I'm now commuting for an hour and I use it a lot. I use VisualHub to recode almost anything for the video player.
The mail.app could do with some work, though there's plenty of apps to enable a landscape keyboard, but it would be nice to turn it to landscape to read your emails.
I use Fring for Skyping with a Wifi connection, it's no worse than Skype is on the desktop anyway.
Oh and the phone is pretty good and very clear too, the voicemail is very handy. Shame it's on T-mobile (worse 3G network in Holland, though they are adding Wifi like mad all over the place).
My most used app is a dutch train timetable/planner app (Trein) for the railways as I commute to another city a lot which is really useful - like a departures board on your phone for any station in Holland, shows late running trains and plans for connections. I use iNap 'cos I keep falling asleep and it wakes me up 1mile from my station. I got a little Kindle style bookreader (stanza) for free book and free Guardian, BBC, news reading too.
The iPod is well handy as I lost mine recently.
Have made a few ringtones reasonably effortlessly with Garageband but would nice to send 'em to mates or do it more simply.
I can type with two fingers pretty quickly, you get used to it pretty quickly if you use it a lot - faster than that idiot using his thumbs on youtube anyway, but I put that down to nearly 30 years of two finger typing. Tactile would be good, but you'd have to give up some space and it's big enough to be honest I wouldn't want a hardware keyboard, I'm never that far from a desktop for proper work and writing.
So I like it anyway I might even try jailbreaking one day.
Cons: had to buy a Porta battery charger 'cos I'm always using it. But it'll do over 24 hours if I'm not caning the screen. Bluetooth is a battery drain so I have that off generally. Apple lock down. Lack of backgrounding apps (unless you're Apple). Safari reloads pages too often and crashes too frequently, though a reboot helps when it all gets twisted memory-wise. Needs more memory, 128MB ain't enough, and more proper apps, like tethering. Mail.app no landscape. Cut and Paste lacking. Folders on home screen would be handy. Bluetooth stereo headphone support. Some sort of remote for iPod would be good so I can use alternative none micced headphones and could still control the damn thing without getting it out of my pocket. Can't get music off it, or sync it with any other mac than the one you choose, that's well annoying. Lack of Flash (and it's already pretty much been made for ARM machines now - but Apple won't get involved - expect to see it on Android soon) - it doesn't bother me for most things except the flash movie players - Break.com and tutorials I want to watch. Youtube on iPhone is pony for less viewed movies. Most apps very US centric, though a lot of that is down to Google.
I don't like the Applestore lock-down, but I sort understand elements of it - especially from a piracy point of view. There's not so many developers who can get paid so well without having their work ripped off. Just look at the amount of pirated apps available to jailbroken phones (ie all of them)
But I look at Google and think they are to Apple now what Apple was to IBM in the 80s, so Apple should watch out. Just see the quality of Google's apps on the iPhone for how well they're working. I'm really glad they're in the game. The tyranny of Jobs has always annoyed me but I still find their products better for me at the moment.
My mini review:
I like my iPhone. I've had it about three months now.
I can see if you're already a smartphone user you'll find it lacking but as a disgruntled Nokia 'normal' phone user (and mac user) who upgraded, I think it's superb. I occasionally miss C&P but you can always bookmark a webpage, email or add it as an icon to the main page, I never used MMS, I take a rare photo with a phone (I carry an pocket camera normally anyway) and never use phone video. But I can see that would be annoying for some.
The Maps.app I reckon is better for me than TomTom as that's more for driving, Maps is far more useful in terms of knowing about local stuff and integration with loads of other iPhone apps. I don't drive so I couldn't care less about TomTom personally, though I wouldn't be surprised if they're working on an app, considering the money they could make (and having met the wanker of an MD how bloody obsessed he is with Apple). Got me out many a pickle in a recent trip with the family to France, found a hotel with it, and helped when we kept getting lost in Paris. Though the 200 euros roaming bill for just internet usage was a surprise! I was only there for 5 days...
It even shows coffeeshops in Amsterdam, I found a new one round the corner. I look forward to the update (though street view is no good to anyone unless you live in Lyon or Paris). GoogleEarth works beautifully if you don't need any overlays.
The interface is a joy and the anti-aliased type easy on the eyes. I can't even look at a windows browser these days. There's some lovely games on it - Xplane and Fastlane for two, though I use Tetris the most. I recently installed Jaadu, an excellent VNC client (though one of my pet peeves is the lack of backgrounding so I can't run an SSH tunnel at the same time-unless I jailbreak), it works quicker over 3G to my home computer than Chicken OTV does on my work desktop. I was adding torrents on the train this morning and typing in the Terminal. Also using a free Google app called GoogleRemote/telekinesis that lets me access my entire home folder structure, so I can open PDFs and stream quicktime movies.
The fact it syncs almost everything with my home and work mac is really useful, and because I used to spend an inordinant amount of time in the garden smoking spliffs, browsing and video watching worked pretty flawlessly, though Safari crashes a bit too often with lots of images. I'm now commuting for an hour and I use it a lot. I use VisualHub to recode almost anything for the video player.
The mail.app could do with some work, though there's plenty of apps to enable a landscape keyboard, but it would be nice to turn it to landscape to read your emails.
I use Fring for Skyping with a Wifi connection, it's no worse than Skype is on the desktop anyway.
Oh and the phone is pretty good and very clear too, the voicemail is very handy. Shame it's on T-mobile (worse 3G network in Holland, though they are adding Wifi like mad all over the place).
My most used app is a dutch train timetable/planner app (Trein) for the railways as I commute to another city a lot which is really useful - like a departures board on your phone for any station in Holland, shows late running trains and plans for connections. I use iNap 'cos I keep falling asleep and it wakes me up 1mile from my station. I got a little Kindle style bookreader (stanza) for free book and free Guardian, BBC, news reading too.
The iPod is well handy as I lost mine recently.
Have made a few ringtones reasonably effortlessly with Garageband but would nice to send 'em to mates or do it more simply.
I can type with two fingers pretty quickly, you get used to it pretty quickly if you use it a lot - faster than that idiot using his thumbs on youtube anyway, but I put that down to nearly 30 years of two finger typing. Tactile would be good, but you'd have to give up some space and it's big enough to be honest I wouldn't want a hardware keyboard, I'm never that far from a desktop for proper work and writing.
So I like it anyway
I might even try jailbreaking one day.Cons: had to buy a Porta battery charger 'cos I'm always using it. But it'll do over 24 hours if I'm not caning the screen. Bluetooth is a battery drain so I have that off generally. Apple lock down. Lack of backgrounding apps (unless you're Apple). Safari reloads pages too often and crashes too frequently, though a reboot helps when it all gets twisted memory-wise. Needs more memory, 128MB ain't enough, and more proper apps, like tethering. Mail.app no landscape. Cut and Paste lacking. Folders on home screen would be handy. Bluetooth stereo headphone support. Some sort of remote for iPod would be good so I can use alternative none micced headphones and could still control the damn thing without getting it out of my pocket. Can't get music off it, or sync it with any other mac than the one you choose, that's well annoying. Lack of Flash (and it's already pretty much been made for ARM machines now - but Apple won't get involved - expect to see it on Android soon) - it doesn't bother me for most things except the flash movie players - Break.com and tutorials I want to watch. Youtube on iPhone is pony for less viewed movies. Most apps very US centric, though a lot of that is down to Google.
I don't like the Applestore lock-down, but I sort understand elements of it - especially from a piracy point of view. There's not so many developers who can get paid so well without having their work ripped off. Just look at the amount of pirated apps available to jailbroken phones (ie all of them)
But I look at Google and think they are to Apple now what Apple was to IBM in the 80s, so Apple should watch out. Just see the quality of Google's apps on the iPhone for how well they're working. I'm really glad they're in the game. The tyranny of Jobs has always annoyed me but I still find their products better for me at the moment.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Defo needs more memory. They knew they were going to be getting the iPhone to use apps. So why they didn't account for this when selecting memory size i don't know.
djbombscare
Plays with knives
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Thats been going on for years and can you blame Google or Apple. I very much suspect that if you came up with a landmark app for Android and Apple wanted it on the iPhone, Apple might well let you do what ever you like and pay you as well.
Thats true of all unsupported API's? You use them at your peril.
or we send the Ballmer round
He's such a goon that guy. I'm sure they'd all chuckle if Bulmer came round and did his excitable dad dancing.
Kanda
Diving wanker
turn the phone on it's side when in Calc.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I look forward to less crashing on Safari.
I was just reading, that 2.0 gave the phone a scientific calculator? Eh? Looks pretty basic to me...
FFS, now that's not very obvious is it!
It was made blatently obvious at the keynote speech. It got a huge round of applause. Did you miss the speech?
editor
hiraethified
Him and Jobs. Bunch of pricks. But at least this one dances rather than smugly mopes around in a stupid rollneck shirt.
editor
hiraethified
Nah. He's just as big a cunt.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
greedy cunt
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Clearly!
editor
hiraethified
LOL. Those US fanboys clap everything at Apple launches like demented seals begging for fish from a bucket.
It might be easy to miss bits amongst the back-slapping artillery going on.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I was seriously bemused by the reception it got. Anyone would have thought he'd said 'teleportation device' not scientific calculator.
I was like shit do these geeks really get such big hardons for mathematics?
djbombscare
Plays with knives
Yes cos they only get to work in: 11100111010101011110101110110
you would have no idea how wonderful it would be to be able to write 1622
someones gonna work out what exactly the number in binary is now
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
485145974
I think, every converter I stick it in gives a different result
I think, every converter I stick it in gives a different result
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