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Picked up a 12 Pro this afternoon as the Birmingham Apple Store had some in stock.

I'll be honest, and I appear to be in the minority. I think it looks cheap. Well, the back certainly does. The way the back is mounted just gives it the appearance as if I've stuck a shitty screen protector on it. Luckily I'll be putting a case on it so I won't have the look at that hideousness anyway as otherwise I would probably have seriously thought about returning it. £999 at it looks shit. Some of you might think I'm doing satire here due to generally being more favourable to Apple, but i'm deadly serious. It looks cheap and shit. Not impressed.
 
It probably doesn’t show up well in pictures. From what I can see this is how they are. I genuinely thought I’d been given a dud.

that gap between the edge and the inner. Looks shit. I just want to get my nails under it and peel it off.
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cybershot said:
It probably doesn’t show up well in pictures. From what I can see this is how they are. I genuinely thought I’d been given a dud.

that gap between the edge and the inner. Looks shit. I just want to get my nails under it and peel it off.
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That's their new ceramic backing isn't it? I was pondering whether to upgrade from my 8 to a 12, but just bought a new iPad Air, so might wait a year for the 13.
 
cybershot said:
Picked up a 12 Pro this afternoon as the Birmingham Apple Store had some in stock.

I'll be honest, and I appear to be in the minority. I think it looks cheap. Well, the back certainly does. The way the back is mounted just gives it the appearance as if I've stuck a shitty screen protector on it. Luckily I'll be putting a case on it so I won't have the look at that hideousness anyway as otherwise I would probably have seriously thought about returning it. £999 at it looks shit. Some of you might think I'm doing satire here due to generally being more favourable to Apple, but i'm deadly serious. It looks cheap and shit. Not impressed.
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For a grand I'd expect nothing short of perfection, particularly given that you could pick up a phone for half the price that would match it in every area and have a better camera. Which begs the question - why put up with it?
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
God no, I’ll stick with my custom moulded, 10 (!) drivers per side IEM’s from JH Audio, which were a snip at £1.5K thank you very much ;) :D

These are rather beautiful looking though, and will no doubt sound pretty good. But that price is somewhat bonkers, even by Apple standards. £300 would have been the right ballpark.
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Are you sure?

www.apple.com

Apple Mac Pro Wheels Kit

Put your Mac Pro on wheels with the Mac Pro Wheels Kit. The custom-designed stainless steel and rubber wheels make it easy to move your Mac Pro around, whether sliding it out from under your desk or across your studio.
www.apple.com
 
cybershot said:
Picked up a 12 Pro this afternoon as the Birmingham Apple Store had some in stock.

I'll be honest, and I appear to be in the minority. I think it looks cheap. Well, the back certainly does. The way the back is mounted just gives it the appearance as if I've stuck a shitty screen protector on it. Luckily I'll be putting a case on it so I won't have the look at that hideousness anyway as otherwise I would probably have seriously thought about returning it. £999 at it looks shit. Some of you might think I'm doing satire here due to generally being more favourable to Apple, but i'm deadly serious. It looks cheap and shit. Not impressed.
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Fuck me, I though I was picky! And I am, but I think mine (same model) looks absolutely fine, just great actually. Still, it's just a matter of opinion and if you've only just bought it you've got 14 days to return it and get your money back if you hate it that much.
 
editor said:
For a grand I'd expect nothing short of perfection, particularly given that you could pick up a phone for half the price that would match it in every area and have a better camera. Which begs the question - why put up with it?
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Yep, for a grand it should be flush, no dinky edge lips. Compared to my iPhone X which still looks and feels great in the hand, this feels like a backwards step. I'll put up with it because I'll never look at the back if it anyway once it goes in a case as i prefer the wallet style cases to protect it all round should I drop it.
 
The good thing about iPhones is that you can go to one of their shops if you suspect it has a defect, and then you can compare it to other handsets and get it replaced there's a problem.

Trying doing that with a Xaoimi or a Google
 
platinumsage said:
The good thing about iPhones is that you can go to one of their shops if you suspect it has a defect, and then you can compare it to other handsets and get it replaced there's a problem.

Trying doing that with a Xaoimi or a Google
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Only if you happen to live close to an Apple store, of course. And want to spend time hanging around a 'genius bar.'
 
platinumsage said:
The good thing about iPhones is that you can go to one of their shops if you suspect it has a defect, and then you can compare it to other handsets and get it replaced there's a problem.

Trying doing that with a Xaoimi or a Google
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That's the good thing about Xiaomi, they don't have defects. I prefer my phones that way. :thumbs:
 
editor said:
Only if you happen to live close to an Apple store, of course. And want to spend time hanging around a 'genius bar.'
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They also collect, fix and then return if you don't want to go to a shop. Fitted a new battery on my Mum's 2nd hand iPhone 7 I got off ebay, I knew it might need a new battery.
I think it went to Croatia where a new battery was fitted and back again in 4 days. Got a text at every stage of the process.
 
Got my old iPhone X booked in for battery replacement on Monday (no appointments on day I picked up 12 pro) hoping they are still speedy and turn it around within the hour.

then to hand it down to mother. Such a nice son I am.
 
cybershot said:
austinmann.com

ProRaw is here! — Travel Photographer - Austin Mann

Today Apple officially released their new image format for creative professionals, Apple ProRAW. It marks a monumental leap forward in digital imaging on iPhone and I can’t wait to share a bit more about it. I’ll cover why ProRAW matters, how to shoot ProRAW, and some of the best tools and apps for
austinmann.com austinmann.com
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That's interesting; I hope it prompts other phone makers into being more consistent in offering an option for RAW output.
 
editor said:
Apple doing that think differently thing

www.bloomberg.com

Apple Push Into India Dealt Setback as Protest Turns Violent

Apple Inc.’s effort to expand the manufacturing of its products in India ran into trouble after workers at a supplier’s plant rioted over unpaid wages, with many arrested for violence and vandalism.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
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Clearly they don't want to have all their eggs in the China/Foxconn basket what with all the security implications, IP thievery, human rights issues, and presumably an increasingly costly workforce.

India would seem to solve much of that but with less state controls, a less subservient workforce and potential for violence and demos like this.

Must be tough weighing up how best to exploit global human labour costs while maintaining an orderly output of iStuff.
 
cybershot said:
austinmann.com

ProRaw is here! — Travel Photographer - Austin Mann

Today Apple officially released their new image format for creative professionals, Apple ProRAW. It marks a monumental leap forward in digital imaging on iPhone and I can’t wait to share a bit more about it. I’ll cover why ProRAW matters, how to shoot ProRAW, and some of the best tools and apps for
austinmann.com austinmann.com
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anyone claiming to be a 'creative professional' and shooting on a smartphone is a bit of an arsehole IMHO
 
UnderAnOpenSky said:
I guess if it's important to you it's not hard to find one that does when choosing which one to buy as plenty do.
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It's something I look for when choosing a phone, and my experience is that quite a few phones that have decent cameras (and are marketed as such) don't have it. On some you can access it in the stock camera, in some you have to use a 3rd party camera app, and some you can't access it at all.

In addition, it's rarely stated in the basic specs for the phone and often isn't discussed in reviews, and it can be a pain trying to find out whether it's there or not. All of this suggests that it's very much a minority interest, or the phone makers think it is. This is why it's interesting that Apple - the most mainstream of mainstream phone makers - are now positively presenting it as a feature, and why I hope it might prompt others to change their approach.
 
teuchter said:
It's something I look for when choosing a phone, and my experience is that quite a few phones that have decent cameras (and are marketed as such) don't have it. On some you can access it in the stock camera, in some you have to use a 3rd party camera app, and some you can't access it at all.

In addition, it's rarely stated in the basic specs for the phone and often isn't discussed in reviews, and it can be a pain trying to find out whether it's there or not. All of this suggests that it's very much a minority interest, or the phone makers think it is. This is why it's interesting that Apple - the most mainstream of mainstream phone makers - are now positively presenting it as a feature, and why I hope it might prompt others to change their approach.
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if say in the last 3 years the only selling points have been camera improvements. Most of the big companies all push their camera tech in adverts and reviews usually go into detail about the camera. Agree the general review might not go into full tech camera specs as they will be reviewing the phone as a general everyday user but there’s usually specialist reviews. Also not helped obviously by stuff like this not being available at launch which means every review of the iPhone 12 Pro that’s already out there won’t even discuss this or will just breeze over it saying it’s a coming soon feature.

Oh and 5G but no one can realistically use that at the moment.
 
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