Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[Marty1]

That’s one of the great things about Apple phones, and one of the few things that goes towards justifying their prices - their phones last longer. What five year old Android phone still gets timely security updates and runs all the latest stuff?

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[cybershot]

There's plenty of people equally happy on ancient, non Apple phones that cost a fraction of the price too

without security updates. Which I think was the point.

 

[Saul Goodman]

without security updates. Which I think was the point.

It would be terrible if someone managed to hack into your mother's phone and steal her upside-down pineapple cake recipe

 

[Spymaster]

Just to reiterate from the other thread. Under absolutely no circumstances should anyone with and ounce of social awareness be running a Huawei phone. Absolutely disgusting company that makes Apple look positively benevolent.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Just to reiterate from the other thread. Under absolutely no circumstances should anyone with and ounce of social awareness be running a Huawei phone. Absolutely disgusting company that makes Apple look positively benevolent.

I wouldn't dream of buying one. Apple are saints by comparison.

 

[Marty1]

Just to reiterate from the other thread. Under absolutely no circumstances should anyone with and ounce of social awareness be running a Huawei phone. Absolutely disgusting company that makes Apple look positively benevolent.

Treat workers like shit?

 

[Spymaster]

Treat workers like shit?

And the rest. Heavily racist employer, in the pocket of the Chinese regime who are currently involved in genocide, steal IP like the practice was going out of fashion, and are probably installing spyware throughout the 5G networks they haven’t yet been banned from.

Great cameras on their smartphones though.

 

[Marty1]

I wouldn't dream of buying one. Apple are saints by comparison.

Who’s ok to buy from in the android world?

My work android device is Honeywell.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Who’s ok to buy from in the android world?

My work android device is Honeywell.

I've used Xiaomi for years but go with whoever you like. They're all going to be cunts, it's just to what extent.

 

[Spymaster]

Who’s ok to buy from in the android world?

None of them are saints but comparatively, pretty much anyone will be better than Huawei.

 

[editor]

All of the phone companies exploit workers and fuck up the environment. and they all mine precious resources only to immediately try to persuade you to upgrade and throw the last phone away. To start lauding Apple above any of the other cunts is ludicrous fanboy nonsense. They share many of the same components as all the other phones.

And then there's the moral issue of the vast sums of money they have stashed away when we're living in a world of want.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

And the rest. Heavily racist employer, in the pocket of the Chinese regime who are currently involved in genocide, steal IP like the practice was going out of fashion, and are probably installing spyware throughout the 5G networks they haven’t yet been banned from.

Great cameras on their smartphones though.

With all the attention given to the risk to 5g networks you'd have thought we'd have a smoking gun by now.

 

[editor]

With all the attention given to the risk to 5g networks you'd have thought we'd have a smoking gun by now.

Some people are apparently happy to take Trump's word for it. I don't think I've seen any actual evidence to back up all the wild allegations.

 

[Spymaster]

With all the attention given to the risk to 5g networks you'd have thought we'd have a smoking gun by now.

Some people here are apparently happy to give them them the benefit of the massive doubt and excuse their undoubtedly disgusting employment practices and support of a genocidal regime.

Shame on them .

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Some people here are apparently happy to give them them the benefit of the massive doubt and excuse their undoubtedly disgusting employment practices and support of a genocidal regime.

Shame on them .

Your trolling unless you don't buy anything made in China. Capatalism is pretty fucked ethicaly, but we know that right?

 

[Spymaster]

Your trolling unless you don't buy anything made in China. Capatalism is pretty fucked ethicaly, but we know that right?

Are you fucking joking?

 

[Yossarian]

Why do people who should know better keep repeating over and over again the fallacies that A) smartphone companies are all as bad as each other and B) You can't criticise an individual Chinese company if you own anything made in China?

Huawei has got very close links to the Chinese regime and has played a major role in the country's dystopian surveillance policies, particularly in Xinjiang, where their development of surveillance systems has made them an active participant in genocide.

All of this has been discussed many times before and anybody with any doubts just needs to Google something like "criticisms of Huawei" or "Huawei Xinjiang" - so I don't know how anybody can possibly cling to the narrative that Huawei is a plucky little telecommunications giant that is being unfairly persecuted by Donald Trump.

 

[editor]

Why do people who should know better keep repeating over and over again the fallacies that A) smartphone companies are all as bad as each other and B) You can't criticise an individual Chinese company if you own anything made in China?

Huawei has got very close links to the Chinese regime and has played a major role in the country's dystopian surveillance policies, particularly in Xinjiang, where their development of surveillance systems has made them an active participant in genocide.

All of this has been discussed many times before and anybody with any doubts just needs to Google something like "criticisms of Huawei" or "Huawei Xinjiang" - so I don't know how anybody can possibly cling to the narrative that Huawei is a plucky little telecommunications giant that is being unfairly persecuted by Donald Trump.

I don't recall anyone claiming that they were 'plucky.' Perhaps you could find that quote?

 

[Spymaster]

Why do people who should know better keep repeating over and over again the fallacies that A) smartphone companies are all as bad as each other and B) You can't criticise an individual Chinese company if you own anything made in China?

Huawei has got very close links to the Chinese regime and has played a major role in the country's dystopian surveillance policies, particularly in Xinjiang, where their development of surveillance systems has made them an active participant in genocide.

All of this has been discussed many times before and anybody with any doubts just needs to Google something like "criticisms of Huawei" or "Huawei Xinjiang" - so I don't know how anybody can possibly cling to the narrative that Huawei is a plucky little telecommunications giant that is being unfairly persecuted by Donald Trump.

It's absolutely bananas isn't it?

People who go out of their way to attack other companies for marketing practices or for not giving enough to charity, putting up a hugely spirited defence of a company actively linked to the PRC regime's genocide.

Again, Trump's a dick for hundreds of reasons but the one thing he has bang on the money is his response to China. A stopped clock is right twice a day etc. Unfortunately because it's largely a Trump initiative, those who don't think for themselves follow the hive mind and dismiss it out of hand. Big fucking mistake but it does give them an excuse to keep their super-duper Huawei cameraphones.

 

[cybershot]

Apple event is trending on twitter. Just because an Apple event has been announced.

No one does hype like Apple.

 

[T & P]

Apple event is trending on twitter. Just because an Apple event has been announced.

No one does hype like Apple.

They should team up with Brewdog

 

[editor]

For the record, the iPhone is classified as a 100% Chinese export, even though it uses components from all over the globe, just like other handsets.

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[Spymaster]

Why do people who should know better keep repeating over and over again the fallacies that A) smartphone companies are all as bad as each other and B) You can't criticise an individual Chinese company if you own anything made in China?

Because they're caught between a rock and a hard place and their only defence for supporting one of the worst companies on the planet is to shout "well others are just as bad" regardless of the fact that it's simply not true.

Obviously, as already pointed out several times, criticism here is about the disgusting employment and business practices of Huawei specifically and their overt support of the PRC's genocidal regime.

Some though are happy to overlook that and try to deflect and obfuscate in order to feel better about their super-duper-value cameraphones.

 

[Marty1]

Apple event is trending on twitter. Just because an Apple event has been announced.

No one does hype like Apple.

I hope they aren’t going to introduce anything ‘brave’ like they did when they removed the headphone jack

My daughter mentioned something about Apple not going to supply charging cables with new phones but it may just be a rumour.

Saying that - they’ve removed USB ports of their laptops - the gf had to buy a cable to connect USB devices - got charged £17 for a piddly little cable that probably cost Apple 20p to make. No wonder they’re worth $trillions.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Saying that - they’ve removed USB ports of their laptops - the gf had to buy a cable to connect USB devices - got charged £17 for a piddly little cable that probably cost Apple 20p to make. No wonder they’re worth $trillions.

They haven't removed USB ports. They've replaced the old (obsolete?) USB A ports with the far superior USB C port. The same port that's used on just about every new device on the planet. It's one of the only things Apple has ever done right.
USB C to A adapters cost a couple of quid. You don't need a rip-off Apple one.

 

[Spymaster]

It's one of the only things Apple has ever done right.

Getting rid of the 3.5mm headphone jack was inspired too.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Getting rid of the 3.5mm headphone jack was inspired too.

That too. A brave move, which was absolutely necessary but one that probably only Apple could successfully pull off.
The USB C port will transfer video, audio and data, and you can charge your phone from it. It's now the industry standard, and it's about time we had one.

 

[platinumsage]

Getting rid of the 3.5mm headphone jack was inspired too.

Also introducing the lightning connector that could be plugged in either way round. It's equivalent USB-C came out two years later and is basically a copy.

 

[editor]

Also introducing the lightning connector that could be plugged in either way round. It's equivalent USB-C came out two years later and is basically a copy.

Not really

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[Saul Goodman]

Also introducing the lightning connector that could be plugged in either way round. It's equivalent USB-C came out two years later and is basically a copy.

A copy? It's nothing like.
Can you think why Apple might have ditched their lightning connector in favour of USB C?