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Or, like me, you're too tight to pay Apple for the increased Apple ID storage space over 5GB, otherwise I would happily back up to 'the Cloud' but instead just plug my iPhone in to backup roughly every 1-2 months when I remember to.
 
pinkychukkles said:
Or, like me, you're too tight to pay Apple for the increased Apple ID storage space over 5GB, otherwise I would happily back up to 'the Cloud' but instead just plug my iPhone in to backup roughly every 1-2 months when I remember to.
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If you're backing up photos, you can automatically upload unlimited high quality pictures to Google Photos for nuppence.

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which begs the question - what is the best / cheapest way to manage and backup your photos for piece of mind?

I'm adding to this thread as I currently use iphoto / photo with a timemachine backup onto 2 rotated external HDDs (im on a Mac).
Problem is that apple photo is an unwieldy piece of shit and I can never feel comfortable that it is capturing all of the photos that me and mine take from our various iDevices +camera plugged into the MBP
 
nick said:
which begs the question - what is the best / cheapest way to manage and backup your photos for piece of mind?

I'm adding to this thread as I currently use iphoto / photo with a timemachine backup onto 2 rotated external HDDs (im on a Mac).
Problem is that apple photo is an unwieldy piece of shit and I can never feel comfortable that it is capturing all of the photos that me and mine take from our various iDevices +camera plugged into the MBP
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I'd install Google Photos as a matter of course. It's free for high quality images but if you want to upload monster sized files there's the option of buying extra storage - 200GB for £25/year or 2TB for £80 a year. I'm thinking of going for the 2TB option as Google's smart AI lets me search images by location, names, or by typing in random things like 'pub.'

I've also got Amazon Prime and that lets you back up your full size images for no extra cost although the search interface isn't as good.

At home I've also got a 5TB backing up pics and when I get the fucking Synology server to work again, I'll back up on there too. belt and bracers all the way for precious photos!
 
nick said:
which begs the question - what is the best / cheapest way to manage and backup your photos for piece of mind?

I'm adding to this thread as I currently use iphoto / photo with a timemachine backup onto 2 rotated external HDDs (im on a Mac).
Problem is that apple photo is an unwieldy piece of shit and I can never feel comfortable that it is capturing all of the photos that me and mine take from our various iDevices +camera plugged into the MBP
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Ah backups. Never simple once you put your mind to it and certainly never cheap if you need a robust solution.

I pay the 79p a month or whatever it is 50GB iCloud. It hardly breaks the bank and is seamless between all your idevices where you’re logged in with your Apple ID. Flip is that iCloud is obviously a sync service and not a backup service. Delete the pic from camera roll and it’s gone once you delete your ‘deetes items’ or it goes past the 30 days recycle option.

I’d probably then say to stick to your time machine routine as well so you have a physical backup. I use a NAS instead of external storage but that’s also backed up to external storage as well which is kept at my other half’s house should the worse happen and the house goes up in flames. The external device gets synced with the NAS about every 3 weeks.

Once we move in together hopefully next year I’ll have to figure out a new off site backup solution! I’ll probably just go back to keeping it at work instead.
 
Winot said:
Yes. Means I've got a backup of preferences/passwords on various apps. Have had phone go down before and although it can be restored without a computer backup you do lose a lot of info which needs to be re-entered.
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Worth checking the iCloud part of settings. A lot of apps will now sync settings and what not to iCloud so if you need to restore the app it will restore your settings and log in info. Don’t think I’ve physically backed up an iPhone to a device or iCloud for that matter since the 4s. I happily just set back to factory and restore my apps.

Although I’d stick with the physical backups until you’ve tried and/or trust another method.
 
 
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Comparison between the night modes as Apple tries to catch up with the competition. There's still no night mode on the front facing camera though.

Apple iPhone 11 Pro Max vs Pixel 3 XL vs Huawei P30 Pro night mode camera comparison

And whatever happened to Appler's sleek design?

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Another review:
Apple iPhone 11 Pro and Pro Max review: Better, but not groundbreaking
Engadget is now a part of Oath
 
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editor said:
And whatever happened to Appler's sleek design?
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Steve Jobs died.

Steve Jobs always insisted customers didn't want big screens and longer battery life over sleek pocket sized phones.

Once he died Apple suddenly started doing bigger screens and using standard (and cheaper) battery sizes.

The bendy iPhone 6 fiasco couldn't have helped either.
 
Gromit said:
Steve Jobs died.

Steve Jobs always insisted customers didn't want big screens and longer battery life over sleek pocket sized phones.

Once he died Apple suddenly started doing bigger screens and using standard (and cheaper) battery sizes.

The bendy iPhone 6 fiasco couldn't have helped either.
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Steve Jobs was completely wrong about many, many things.
 
And he was usually prepared to quietly change his mind on stuff later, so his proclamations dont offer many clues about what directions Apple would have gone in if he was still alive.
 
Or to put it another way, those sort of 'forceful personalities' (domineering, control freak scum) can be capable of speaking in a believable and passionate manner about all manner of things that you might be forgiven for thinking are deadly held convictions of theirs. But usually its just part of the reality distortion field, just part of the sell for the latest product, their latest reality. If, 3 years later, they were releasing a product with a very different emphasis and set of compromises, then the message from the likes of Jobs would change to fit, even if it completely contradicted his earlier utterances.
 
Just one example. When the first iphone was announced, there was no app store. Jobs wanked on and on about how web apps would be good enough. Few believed him, and its unlikely he believed that himself, it was just some bullshit to cover the timing gap, while they worked on the app store and the things developers need to develop apps for an OS.
 
Also worth remembering that when the iPhone first launched it only had 4Gb storage (pithy even back in '07), didn't have 3G, didn't even have the ability to copy/paste text, and was exclusive to only one operator in the UK. It also entered the market at a time when there was huge skepticism about virtual keyboards which turned many people off owning one for a long while (myself included). They nevertheless managed to join together enough elements of both mass market and business needs and design desirability to make it the most lucrative model of phone on the market.

Being months behind their rivals with 'innovative' features is nothing new. Nor as elbows said, are they averse to changing their mind on things (remember how Jobs hated the idea of a stylus). What they've always done well is bringing existing tech to larger audiences who don't routinely frequent the pages of TechCrunch et al.
 
skyscraper101 said:
Being months behind their rivals with 'innovative' features is nothing new. Nor as elbows said, are they averse to changing their mind on things (remember how Jobs hated the idea of a stylus). What they've always done well is bringing existing tech to larger audiences who don't routinely frequent the pages of TechCrunch et al.
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Except their sales continue to fall while truly innovating tech firms like Huawei expand at an exponential rate (well, until the the madman in charge of the US Govt decided to screw them over with no evidence).

Apple will continue to thrive as they've locked in so many users into their walled garden, but the days of the company producing class-leading products have long gone.
 
Well I could argue that they hardly ever made class-leading products, there were a few big exceptions that caused no end of gushing praise from the tech and business press, but those things were always the exception and not the rule.

They had an early important role in home computers, that we were not terribly well placed to witness in the UK.
They had the ipod.
The iphone.
The ipad.

And those last 3 are quite closely linked. I suppose I could shoehorn a few more in, like 'a home computer for the 2000's that isnt ugly and beige' but I dont really think that turned the tech world upside down. There were other products that were popular, but not really innovative. Or a few that were bold back in the day, but were not really ripe and were not big hits at all (eg Newton).

The reasons I will occasionally buy Apple products are much the same as they were 15 years ago. I like the operating systems. I like the fonts. And stemming from that, I like a lot of the apps.
 
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Except their sales continue to fall while truly innovating tech firms like Huawei expand at an exponential rate (well, until the the madman in charge of the US Govt decided to screw them over with no evidence).

Apple will continue to thrive as they've locked in so many users into their walled garden, but the days of the company producing class-leading products have long gone.
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Agree with all that. Sales falling mainly owing to lack of innovation, and market evening out with top Android products out-competing them in many areas (including price), but they still have a high perch to fall from, and enough resources and retention that waiting for things like 5G and bendy screens to mature (or not) is a luxury they can afford.
 
elbows said:
Well I could argue that they hardly ever made class-leading products, there were a few big exceptions that caused no end of gushing praise from the tech and business press, but those things were always the exception and not the rule.
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I think the Apple Watch is probably the best smartwatch currently available although that square shpe is fuckng ugly and there's plenty of far cheaper alternatives that are good enough. They have had class-leading tech - the MacBook Air almost tempted me - but the iPhone has lagged behind for ages while their Android rivals have overtaken in terms of performance/price/tech. The fact that Apple still charges such eye watering prices just makes the less competitive to potential buyers. That said, in the history of tech, the iPhone still sits near the top of game-changers.
 
I expect they think the next big opportunity to define and temporarily claim some new corner of the IT world for their own will be AR.

I've no idea if they will succeed, and its a slow mission. And, rather than in the past where they've often completely ignored certain tech until they consider it ripe enough to turn into a killer product, this one is being done incrementally with their 3rd party developers along for the ride. So they are putting various rudimentary AR building blocks in place on iOS, and eventually it is assumed there will be a wearable product that takes this to a different level where evangelising may then begin in earnest. I dont fancy trying to expand much on this prophecy before such a device actually exists though, and if all the pieces dont fall into place it could be a long wait.
 
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I think the Apple Watch is probably the best smartwatch to currently available although that square shpe is fuckng ugly and there's plenty of far cheaper alternatives that are good enough. They have had class-leading tech - the MacBook Air almost tempted me - but the iPhone has lagged behind for ages while their Android rivals have overtaken in terms of performance/price/tech. The fact that Apple still charges such eye watering prices just makes the less competitive to potential buyers. That said, in the history of tech, the iPhone still sits near the top of game-changers.
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The Watch seems quite good, I am completely out of touch with the alternatives so thats why I dont want to make any claims about how the Apple Watch compares.

I dont go on about their prices because its always been their business model, they wont ever change it unless consumers available in those price brackets are somehow wiped out.
 
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You think so? I can't see AR being that big amongst the masses.
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I consider it inevitable that it will become completely ubiquitous at some stage. But I cant be sure which gen of tech, or exactly what form of hardware, will be the winning proposition. It wont take too much to set some aspects back a generation, especially if we are talking about wearable stuff. (eg glasshole-related doom)

Perhaps the term AR is too narrow. I suppose my prediction about ubiquity is more about taking the world of networks, data, services and machine learning and adding a bunch of spatial computing stuff to the mix. Maybe it will go in a different direction to what I would imagine in 2019 when talking about AR, I dont know.
 
The watch is great. Best gadget I’ve bought in years. Just wish the battery could go 48 hours at least.

Phone sales are dwindling but you have to tip your hat to them, that they continue to support phones that are getting on for 5 years old,which most people overlook when looking at sales charts. If a device does all a person needs it to do there’s no point in upgrading, so if you do manage to keep the device for 5 years even with a battery change you’ve got decent mileage out of it. My mum is more than happy with her 6 for example.

FWIW the iPhone 11 also costs less than the XR so prices have actually come down. Again. Rarely mentioned, although the pro costs more XS so flashy gits will pay more.

Also phone networks are desperate to keep customers. My other half whose contact is about to end spent Friday on live chat to Vodafone, it took a while but she got an iPhone 11 for no upfront cost and the same price a month as she was paying for her 6s. Which wasn’t the latest handset when she got it. She only has 5GB data but rarely gets close. £40 a month. Over 24 months (with option to upgrade again in 12 months) that actually works out cheaper than buying the phone out right and finding a sim only contract for £10 a month. So if you are a person that gets handsets direct from the network. Hold them to ransom. There’s deals to be had.
 
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I consider it inevitable that it will become completely ubiquitous at some stage. But I cant be sure which gen of tech, or exactly what form of hardware, will be the winning proposition. It wont take too much to set some aspects back a generation, especially if we are talking about wearable stuff. (eg glasshole-related doom)
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I think it will be ubiquitous too, but I can't see it crossing over into the mums'n'dads/family mainstream like phones have. It's like when you see sci-fi films and people have to wave their arms around in the air to get the simplest tasks done. It's silly.
 
I’d have thought holographic/projecting screens would be the next game changer over AR. Which could make folding screens a short lived fad.

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