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hiraethified
Hahaha. You really have no idea. Ask how many DJs are going to want to have to remember to bring along another adaptor to gigs.
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skyscraper101
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Hahaha. You really have no idea. Ask how many DJs are going to want to have to remember to bring along another adaptor to gigs.
What are you talking about? You don't need any more adaptors for DJing.
You'd only need an adaptor if you wanted to use your non-iphone DJ headphones on your iPhone 7.
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hiraethified
And if you've got your all-new extra expensive, iPhone-compatible Dr Dres complete with the really essential new-style adaptor and you arrive at the DJ gig...?
"Has anyone got a USB-C to mini jack adopter please?" LOL.
skyscraper101
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Wait wait.. we're talking at crossed wires here.
You're now describing some bespoke iphone 7 compatible Dr Dre headphones which don't have a mini-jack? And which require an adaptor to make them into a minijack? Where has this come from?
I'm talking about using regular style DJ cans with a mini-jack as standard (although most proper ones would have a 1/4 inch jack or an adaptor to make it so). Nobody's talking about making professional style DJ headphones with a lightning-only connector yet. I certainly won't be buying any.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It's virtually always valid to object to non-standard connections of any kind, in my opinion.
It doesn't really matter whether you can buy an adapter for 99p on ebay or in any phone stall [in a sufficiently sized urban centre and within local opening hours] in the world.
There are plenty of situations where buying via either of those methods is not possible within say the next 24 hours and those kinds of situations are often the same ones where not being able to use your phone or other gadget is highly inconvenient.
Life is much easier if, when you lose your phone charger, virtually anyone else in the world with a phone can allow you to borrow theirs until you are in the position to get a new one.
Likewise life is much easier if virtually any pair of headphones (or mixing deck or amp or mini speakers) will plug into virtually any device with an audio out facility.
Won't anyone think of hitch-hikers in the outer hebrides or people at parties at 3am?
I'm not an apple-hater but their insistence on (constantly changing) non-standard connections for just about everything is one of the things that annoys me the most.
It doesn't really matter whether you can buy an adapter for 99p on ebay or in any phone stall [in a sufficiently sized urban centre and within local opening hours] in the world.
There are plenty of situations where buying via either of those methods is not possible within say the next 24 hours and those kinds of situations are often the same ones where not being able to use your phone or other gadget is highly inconvenient.
Life is much easier if, when you lose your phone charger, virtually anyone else in the world with a phone can allow you to borrow theirs until you are in the position to get a new one.
Likewise life is much easier if virtually any pair of headphones (or mixing deck or amp or mini speakers) will plug into virtually any device with an audio out facility.
Won't anyone think of hitch-hikers in the outer hebrides or people at parties at 3am?
I'm not an apple-hater but their insistence on (constantly changing) non-standard connections for just about everything is one of the things that annoys me the most.
sim667
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No self respecting DJ uses Dre Beats....... the build quality is terrible and the sound quality is terrible.
Here's the non-standard (and thankfully obsolete) 30 pin connector.
Translate the pin-outs into standard connectors.
Summarising, there's two line level stereo analog pairs, in and out. The standard connectors for those are RCA jacks. So we have four of those standard connectors.
S-Video standard connector is a mini din. There's another standard connector.
Firewire (you'll note the pins assigned to that) is another standard connector.
USB channels (again, you'll note the pins assigned to that) is another standard connector.
Just to facilitate the non Apple standard protocols, to make the 30 pin connector, "standard" connectors would mean:
4 x RCA Jacks (Arguably these could be reduced to an additional 2 x 3.5mm stereo pair line level jacks, in addition to the headphone jack)
1 x S-Video Mini Din
1 x Firewire Port
1 x USB
That's ALOT of standard connectors.
Which no phone ever made has ever had. Not by any manufacturer. Ever.
Of course the 30 pin connector is an outdated example. People complained about it being get rid of (owners, had to buy more accessories), and other people complained about it being introduced to begin with (non owners, not affected, got angry anyway).
There are several stories around "Apple just makes weird connectors" that don't quite pan out. The 30 pin connector shows that. It can't be translated into "standard connectors" without a myriad of "standard" sockets that no phone could accommodate.
(Personally, I think removing the 3.5mm headphone jack sucks, but that's a different than 'that's what they always do'. It just sucks.)
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sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
Maybe in the US...... but I've never seen a DJ turn up to play with beats over here at all the events we've been involved in.
The Sennheiser HD 25-II seem to be the go to's
pesh
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generally when you see someone DJing with a pair they are either a big name being paid a huge amount of money to pretend to use them or a muppet who's paid a huge amount of money for them and has no idea what they are doing or why everything is farting.
skyscraper101
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This is all academic because nobody has suggested they're making Beats By Dre headphones with a lightning only connection. The only thing I see rumoured is apple earbud headphones, and even then I wouldn't be surprised if they still had a mini-jack attachment with an adaptor.
Mixers the world over take 1/4 inch jack headphones and no serious DJ headphone manufacturer is going to start issuing lightning port only headphones. This has come out of nowhere.
Mixers the world over take 1/4 inch jack headphones and no serious DJ headphone manufacturer is going to start issuing lightning port only headphones. This has come out of nowhere.
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hiraethified
I'll quote you on that. You are aware that Apple owns Dr Beats, yes?
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hiraethified
How do you 'pretend' to use the headphones that are on your head when you're DJing in front of a big crowd?generally when you see someone DJing with a pair they are either a big name being paid a huge amount of money to pretend to use them or a muppet who's paid a huge amount of money for them and has no idea what they are doing or why everything is farting.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Here's the non-standard (and thankfully obsolete) 30 pin connector.
Translate the pin-outs into standard connectors.
Summarising, there's two line level stereo analog pairs, in and out. The standard connectors for those are RCA jacks. So we have four of those standard connectors.
S-Video standard connector is a mini din. There's another standard connector.
Firewire (you'll note the pins assigned to that) is another standard connector.
USB channels (again, you'll note the pins assigned to that) is another standard connector.
Just to facilitate the non Apple standard protocols, to make the 30 pin connector, "standard" connectors would mean:
4 x RCA Jacks (Arguably these could be reduced to an additional 2 x 3.5mm stereo pair line level jacks, in addition to the headphone jack)
1 x S-Video Mini Din
1 x Firewire Port
1 x USB
That's ALOT of standard connectors.
Which no phone ever made has ever had. Not by any manufacturer. Ever.
Of course the 30 pin connector is an outdated example. People complained about it being get rid of (owners, had to buy more accessories), and other people complained about it being introduced to begin with (non owners, not affected, got angry anyway).
There are several stories around "Apple just makes weird connectors" that don't quite pan out. The 30 pin connector shows that. It can't be translated into "standard connectors" without a myriad of "standard" sockets that no phone could accommodate.
(Personally, I think removing the 3.5mm headphone jack sucks, but that's a different than 'that's what they always do'. It just sucks.)
If they introduce a new connector that replaces a load of "standard" connectors in one go, then that's progress, but it's only really progress if that can then become a new "standard" connector. But in that case it wasn't even standard within apple ... as you say it became obsolete.
skyscraper101
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I know they own beats headphones. But I've seen nothing to suggest they're making lightning port models.
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hiraethified
Ah right. So you're saying that David Guetta doesn't in fact DJ his gigs at all, but just dons a pair of sponsored headphones and pretends to and no one notices. And your evidence for this claim is?
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
There's plenty of suggestions that David Guetta uses prerecorded mixes.
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hiraethified
So there must be loads of solid proof to back up the assertion that when he's wearing name headphones he's faking the whole thing. It wouldn't be hard to spot to anyone who has a clue about DJing.
pesh
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sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
I haven't made any claims that he uses either sponsored headphones, nor that there's "proof" he's faking being a DJ.
I don't think either suggestion is totally implausible, yes big name DJ's do get sponsored to use certain equipment, and yes big name DJ's provide spectacles which sometimes need to rely on automation.
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hiraethified
Sorry I was rolling with pesh's assertion, although I think I've already spent too long discussing the DJ bellend.
skyscraper101
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Regardless of Guetta being paid to wear these tacky things and whether he's pretending or not...
I really doubt making headphones with lightning only connections is by any means going after the proper DJ market. I haven't seen anything suggesting this is going to happen anyway, so this is all just pure speculation which has veered of the topic of earbuds and adaptors.
And, speaking as a DJ, I wouldn't be seen dead using these things. Lightning connector or not.
I really doubt making headphones with lightning only connections is by any means going after the proper DJ market. I haven't seen anything suggesting this is going to happen anyway, so this is all just pure speculation which has veered of the topic of earbuds and adaptors.
And, speaking as a DJ, I wouldn't be seen dead using these things. Lightning connector or not.
Lazy Llama
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As Mr Guetta "had major input" on the creation of the mixr headphones, I suspect he's not buying his own off Amazon 
If they do drop the headphone socket on the iPhone, I wonder if they'll do the same on the MacBooks, Watch etc.
If they do drop the headphone socket on the iPhone, I wonder if they'll do the same on the MacBooks, Watch etc.
skyscraper101
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Given how many people use their white earbuds for use on their ipads and macbooks it wouldn't surprise me if an adapter was thrown in with the new iphone so people can continue to share the earbuds, or even if regular mini-jack earbuds were continued to be supplied with a lightning adaptor for the iphone.
skyscraper101
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Looks like static home buttons with haptic feedback are going to be replacing the traditional depress button which is a welcome move and hopefully will bring with it some waterproof ability.
Report: iPhone 7 will get new touch-sensitive home button, killer camera
Report: iPhone 7 will get new touch-sensitive home button, killer camera
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hiraethified
Apple changing everything. Again.
bi0boy
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New phone hardware in "slightly different" shocker.
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