bi0boy
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How about a standard 2.5mm audio jack and the new standard USB-C port?
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How about a standard 2.5mm audio jack and the new standard USB-C port?
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hiraethified
I'm in no hurry whatsoever to change my current USB cables, but whatever is offered, I want a normal headphone socket please.
skyscraper101
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For my money, the most potentially inconveniencing thing with lightning socket earbuds, is not being able to plug them into another device, including all the millions of apple devices with mini-jack ports.
So it actually wouldn't surprise me at all if Apple supply regular mini-jack headphones with an adaptor already in the box. So that people can still use their mini-jack ports on their iPad, Macbook etc to do audio and video. And people can also use their old cans with the new iphone without a separate purchase.
So it actually wouldn't surprise me at all if Apple supply regular mini-jack headphones with an adaptor already in the box. So that people can still use their mini-jack ports on their iPad, Macbook etc to do audio and video. And people can also use their old cans with the new iphone without a separate purchase.
Me76
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No normal headphones socket will definitely put me off buying the phone.
Apple headphones are shit for sound. I have my own that I have invested money in and use to listen to my ipod. When I need sound on my phone (listening to podcasts, a video, workout etc) I don't want to have to faff around looking for the adaptor I may have forgotten. Also, it's going to put annoying weight at the end of the cable that is going to pull at your headphones while walking.
It's shit.
Apple headphones are shit for sound. I have my own that I have invested money in and use to listen to my ipod. When I need sound on my phone (listening to podcasts, a video, workout etc) I don't want to have to faff around looking for the adaptor I may have forgotten. Also, it's going to put annoying weight at the end of the cable that is going to pull at your headphones while walking.
It's shit.
skyscraper101
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Because this is urban.
skyscraper101
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I don't doubt there are people like you who will consider that that tiny flexi adaptor is too much change to handle.
But I'm also willing to bet that many more people won't really care, and will get over it because the benefits will outweigh the costs.
What benefits?
skyscraper101
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The benefits of owning and using a newer, shinier, faster, and slimmer iPhone with more base storage and better camera, for all the cost of a very tiny adjustment to a peripheral accessory.
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hiraethified
And spending more MONEY for a tiny, incremental improvement with the bonus of NO CHARGING and having none of your existing headphones being compatible! If you're that bothered by thinness, there's thinner Android phones on there.
bi0boy
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skyscraper101
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I reckon the presence of a mini-jack port is way down on the list of priorities when most people are spending money on a new phone. I think speed, storage, interface and aesthetics rate higher.
And the no charging while listening thing really hasn't been established yet. Personally I'd be amazed if Apple were to just let that slide without some kind of solution at launch.
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hiraethified
You're a bit lost in Apple. The reason why iPhone sales are dropping is because people realise there's no great benefit in even faster phones because they're plenty fast enough.
If someone is absolutely obsessed with having the thinnest phone ever, then Android has them, and when it comes to storage, once again Android wins because you can simply slide in a 128GB SD card into a phone that already has 64GB. Not that I reckon most people want that much anyway.
Oh and being able to plug in your favourite earphones is going to be pretty high on as lot of users' priorities. Who the fuck wants to use adaptors?
skyscraper101
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The space freed up by no minijack could actually mean a beefier speaker, possibly stereo speakers. Maybe even bassier beats audio like the HTC One M7 had. I don't know. I'm sure there's some rational logic to getting rid.
skyscraper101
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I really like a lot of Android phones and I also agree there are many things about Android handsets that are appealing like SD card storage, water resistant handsets, and and much better battery on a lot of handsets.
Look I'm not saying people want to carry an adapter. I'm just saying I think it will be such a minor development that most people will just accept it and carry on. Clearly if I'm wrong then Apple will have made a huge miscalculation here and people will be turning to Android sets in their droves. But like with many changes that seem like an inconvenience at first, I just think it won't register in most people's major grievances over time.
Eg. The lack of a removable battery. Something that used to tick me off something chronic about iPhones. Now its just normal across both iphone and android handsets to have a non-removable battery. Nobody wants to go to a specialist to change their ageing battery or carry round a charging cable and an external battery all the time. Chargers and external power packs are way more clunky and annoying to have to carry round. But its the new normal. People live with it. The world carries on.
And if I compare the inconvenience of carrying round an external battery pack with the inconvenience of a minuscule bit of added headphone length, I'd say the battery inconvenience rates way higher.
Yep, could be one of those. Or a little more battery space. Whichever it is it's not about being thinner. There's thinner devices that still have a standard socket.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
FUCK OFF
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hiraethified
Until you lose the pointless shitty adaptor and then you're fucked. And that's progress, eh?
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
Of course there is - money.
skyscraper101
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Until you lose the pointless shitty adaptor and then you're fucked. And that's progress, eh?
This conversation could easily have been about non-removable batteries a while back.. "yeah, non-removeable batteries. Great.. until you run out of battery and can't replace it! So NOW you need to carry round a burdensome charging chord everywhere. Which you might LOSE! Or a shitty, expensive, clunky external battery, which you have to remember to charge...and you might LOSE! The IDIOTS!"
But yet, most people just don't care about it enough to switch their handsets in droves and force a u-turn in design. And now its just normal. People who need them, carry round clunky annoying external chargers because that's the new normal.
Now take headphones. I'm willing to bet that most people just don't care enough about it enough to switch their phone usage over the type of connector they stick their headphones into. Because either 1) they barely ever use headphones or 2) they only use apple headphones with their iphone or 3) they only use their non-apple headphones with one device most of the time. So no reason to de-attach an adaptor.
So, the people who will be most inconvenienced are the people who use non-apple headphones in their iphone, and who think a tiny couple of cm of flexi cord a massive hassle to deal or will need to keep removing and attaching an adaptor. And then may lose it anyway.
And I just think that - vocal as they will undoubtedly be on the internet - this is just not that many people who will then switch phones on that basis.
skyscraper101
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Yes but specifically, more space in the iphone to put other stuff in.
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hiraethified
How do you explain the immense third party market for earphones then?
Enjoy your ridiculous adaptor.
skyscraper101
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See point three.
And if people really cared that much about clunkiness, then those ridiculous beats by dre cans people wander around with don't seem to be harming sales much. If they're not considered burdensome, then I really don't think a tiny weeny adaptor on the end of them will matter much either.
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hiraethified
Boy are you missing the point. Dr Dre cans are about style.
skyscraper101
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Boy are you missing the point. Dr Dre cans are about style.
Yeah, on top of your head! Nobody's checking out the last couple of cm at the bottom of the cord
skyscraper101
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But if your main device for music listening is your iPhone. Which I reckon, it probably is for most iPhone users, then you'd no reason to forget it because it'd be permanently attached to your Dre's.
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hiraethified
And you'd be utterly fucked if you wanted to use them for anything else, like a DJ gig. Or plugging into a mate's device.
skyscraper101
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Well no, because in those instances, you'd then remove the adaptor and you'd have your regular minijack plug back again?
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