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You haven't yet explained how the phone is going to automatically know which card of the many you wish to use for a particular transaction. Perhaps - inbetween throwing around unpleasant accusations of "religious nutters" - you might explain how this might work, and then elaborate on how you can be so sure that one system is better than the other, given that the other DOESN'T PRESENTLY EXIST and HASN'T EVEN BEEN ANNOUNCED.

:facepalm:
you're an idiot.
 
I imagine card selection would be done with the earth shatteringly innovative method of pressing a pretty picture with your finger. Maybe it could even have a "default" option to save you having to do this for the most used one.
So, you've got to take your phone out of your pocket, turn it on, select the app, select the card you wish to use, and then do the fingerprint authentication before you can make the payment? Speedy!
 
Whenever I've paid with a contactless card the bar person takes the card and holds it to the reader. I then have to ask them for a receipt; fuck letting it work on a trust basis.
I have to say that's never happened with me, but then the only time I've ever used it is at WH Smith and a handful of other outlets. Curiously, Superdrug took away the contactless option a while ago.
 
Men on the internet in arguing about phones shocker :facepalm:

It really is fucking weird. It's like some sort of warped version of Top Gear.

They're phones, guys. Phones. I actually wonder how often some of the people on these threads would actually ever require the use of a phone.
 
I have to say that's never happened with me, but then the only time I've ever used it is at WH Smith and a handful of other outlets. Curiously, Superdrug took away the contactless option a while ago.
I've only really used it in pubs :D Not sure if it'd work whilst still in the wallet as I have various work related fobs in there too.
 
It really is fucking weird. It's like some sort of warped version of Top Gear.

They're phones, guys. Phones. I actually wonder how often some of the people on these threads would actually ever require the use of a phone.
It's not like you ever get really obsessed about anything, and go on and on and on about it here, is it?
 
A phone (any phone, not just a fruity one) could actually sort out the mess of contactless payments. As people have said, they have wallets full of contactless cards. Oyster gates now take contactless. Double charging and confused readers abound. Meanwhile, the users have to sort through their cards to find the one they want to actually use for contactless payments. No-ones really thought it through, the consumer just has to live with the mess at the moment.

If you could just set up your phone with a single contactless payment provider then it'd be shit-loads more convenient than the current system. Assuming that there was no need to fingerprint auth or unlock at all. Get our your phone, bonk. You're done.
 
They're phones, guys. Phones. I actually wonder how often some of the people on these threads would actually ever require the use of a phone.
My phone is:

A phone
My diary / calendar
My email
The remote control for my home TV/media player
My satnav
My daily newspaper
My boarding pass when I get on a plane
My banking organiser
A remote control for various mixing desks
My to do lists
A data store for various documents
A portable music player
My alarm clock
The controller for my NAS box



And god knows what else. They stopped being merely "phones" quite a long time ago. Mine is an essential part of how I live and work nowadays.
 
If you could just set up your phone with a single contactless payment provider then it'd be shit-loads more convenient than the current system. Assuming that there was no need to fingerprint auth or unlock at all. Get our your phone, bonk. You're done.
Where it would really work is if it also sorted out loyalty cards as well. This was touted years ago, but has never really happened. But for it to be actually useful it can't involved fucking about with fingerprint readers as that defeats the whole point of contactless payments (although there's still the tricky problem of finding yourself truly fucked if your phone runs out of juice miles from home).

Of course, where it would work even better is if smartwatches used the tech. I'd much rather tap the reader with a watch than have to get out my phone.
 
So, you've got to take your phone out of your pocket, turn it on, select the app, select the card you wish to use, and then do the fingerprint authentication before you can make the payment? Speedy!
I'd be willing to bet I could do all that a hell of a lot quicker than the time it takes me to find stuff in my wallet.
 
It really is fucking weird. It's like some sort of warped version of Top Gear.

They're phones, guys. Phones. I actually wonder how often some of the people on these threads would actually ever require the use of a phone.
people aren't really talking about a traditional phone. they are talking about a new payment method. its quite an interesting development.
 
I'd be willing to bet I could do all that a hell of a lot quicker than the time it takes me to find stuff in my wallet.
That's a bit of silly argument. You may have the world's biggest wallet for all I know, but that won't be the same for everyone else. Some people prefer to keep their phones deep in their bags, for example. Crazy, I know, but there you go.
 
Where it would really work is if it also sorted out loyalty cards as well. This was touted years ago, but has never really happened. But for it to be actually useful it can't involved fucking about with fingerprint readers as that defeats the whole point of contactless payments (although there's still the tricky problem of finding yourself truly fucked if your phone runs out of juice miles from home).

Of course, where it would work even better is if smartwatches used the tech. I'd much rather tap the reader with a watch than have to get out my phone.
ARGH. You don't have to "fuck about" with the iPhone fingerprint reader. That's why it is so good. You press the home button. That's it. This is why every other reader out there has failed, they add another step to things and in some cases require you to change your grip etc (HTC even put one on the back ffs)

Using it on an iPhone requires you to do nothing that you weren't already doing. It is a brilliant implementation of the idea.

As for the smart watch thing - well, it's not like we're lacking in those rumours either :D
 
That's a bit of silly argument. You may have the world's biggest wallet for all I know, but that won't be the same for everyone else. Some people prefer to keep their phones deep in their bags, for example. Crazy, I know, but there you go.
Quite. Which brings us back to my saying this is a feature that I would be interested in.
 
ARGH. You don't have to "fuck about" with the iPhone fingerprint reader. That's why it is so good. You press the home button. That's it. This is why every other reader out there has failed, they add another step to things and in some cases require you to change your grip etc (HTC even put one on the back ffs)

Using it on an iPhone requires you to do nothing that you weren't already doing. It is a brilliant implementation of the idea.
It's a shit idea for contactless payments. And you're getting a little carried away with your iLove.
 
Where it would really work is if it also sorted out loyalty cards as well
There's already the passbook app in iOS. It works really well, but there isn't exactly a huge range of companies using it yet. British Airways, a couple of hotel chains and Starbucks are the only ones I have in there.
 
I've just traded up from an S3 to an S5 purely because the S3 was the best phone I've owned, it literally did everything I could think of that was required.

Genuinely curious, why didn't you get on with it?
Me too. The s3 is a great device. Obviously you need to root and update the Rom to something without all the crap, but after that, the quality of the hardware shines through.
 
My phone is:

A phone
My diary / calendar
My email
The remote control for my home TV/media player
My satnav
My daily newspaper
My boarding pass when I get on a plane
My banking organiser
A remote control for various mixing desks
My to do lists
A data store for various documents
A portable music player
My alarm clock
The controller for my NAS box



And god knows what else. They stopped being merely "phones" quite a long time ago. Mine is an essential part of how I live and work nowadays.

And porn on the move.
 
There's already the passbook app in iOS. It works really well, but there isn't exactly a huge range of companies using it yet. British Airways, a couple of hotel chains and Starbucks are the only ones I have in there.
Google had the same thing and that failed to get much adhesion for the same reason. It really has to be an 'everything' solution for it to have any chance of working, otherwise you end up still carrying around a mix of cards and your phone.
 
It's a shit idea for contactless payments. And you're getting a little carried away with your iLove.
From your own link:

Touch ID works better than the Tab S scanner. It's quicker and more responsive; you just need to tap a finger to the sensor to unlock, as opposed to swiping your finger. Touch ID also works in any orientation, so you can hold your device sideways or upside down and it still works.
:D

The rest of the review is outdated as the fingerprint reader has been opened up for iOS8.
 
Im actually thinking about fucking off having a smartphone. It depresses me how bloody dependent I am on it now.
 
I've just traded up from an S3 to an S5 purely because the S3 was the best phone I've owned, it literally did everything I could think of that was required.

Genuinely curious, why didn't you get on with it?
There's an issue where it switches itself off and flashes its logo until it decides it wants to be on again which can last anywhere between a few seconds and many hours. Apart from that its great.
 
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