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Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

I'm still dithering about new iphone 5s (currently on o2 with an old 4)

I remember reading (maybe on u75 or moneysavingexpert.com) that if you can possibly afford to buy it outright from apple then that is always financially better in the long run (perhaps especially as I'm a VAT registered business?)... rather than get an upgrade from 02 or whoever

(….and then negotiate a really good cheap monthly deal - for me it would need a tonne of data but just a few hundred texts and minutes)

I always thought that the world of commerce works like that..it's part of the so called "poverty premium" ie you pay more in the long term if you haven't got the capital up front

Is that still the case?

My girlfriend's instinct is that a 5S with a lot of memory is such a heck of a lot of money up front…700 quid ffs!..that an upgrade is cleverer even if you have the capital
 
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Any advice on parental controls for iPad?

My daughter has a new iPad Air, and is using my Apple account as she is too young to get one.

e2a: she will be old enough for an Apple ID in a few weeks.
 
Piers Gibbon you've got to do the sums. Compare their sim only tariff vs the contract price and take it from there. Of course they don't always make them like for like to make comparisons harder, but worked out cheaper for me last upgrade to go contract.

It's a lot harder to negotiate these days on upgrades then it was, but if you're a business user with a decent sized monthly bill it may be easier.
 
Oh god not the sums! Thanks…was so much hoping to avoid the sums and the comparing of apples with oranges on different contracts…and sadly my monthly use is low so I am not all that attractive, as a customer ;-) ok sums it is
 
Have you read anything about the drinking game the engineers played while sitting in the audience for that? Or about the golden path?
 
Yup basically it wasn't really a working phone but a massive blag. You had to use certain features in order otherwise it'd crash.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Yup that's an excerpt from the book 'Dogfight: How Apple and Google Went to War and Started a Revolution'. Just finished reading it, very interesting and almost fair account of both Google and Apple's early fight in mobile...
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I've read a couple of articles that said Google pretty much threw Android in the bin and started again when they saw the iPhone.
 
The 8GB version of the iPhone 5C is available, I was wondering who this was aimed at...youngsters that just use streaming services?

Also, how much actual storage space is available once you've got the OS and default applications installed? Does anyone have an 8GB iPhone?
 
mwgdrwg said:
The 8GB version of the iPhone 5C is available, I was wondering who this was aimed at...youngsters that just use streaming services?

Also, how much actual storage space is available once you've got the OS and default applications installed? Does anyone have an 8GB iPhone?
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iOS probably kills off 1.6 ish gb.

To me its pointless, but there are a lot of people who just use iphones as phones/web on the go and the odd photo.

So it probably suits them.... Im currently deleting stuff as my 64GB iPhone is full :rolleyes:
 
Its getting time for another Apple announcement, the iPhone 6 if nothing else. Though if I was them I'd ditch the numbering and change to calling them like cars, the iPhone GTi SE. :)
 
mwgdrwg said:
The 8GB version of the iPhone 5C is available, I was wondering who this was aimed at...youngsters that just use streaming services?

Also, how much actual storage space is available once you've got the OS and default applications installed? Does anyone have an 8GB iPhone?
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I know two people it's perfect for, both older people who like the ease of the iPhone but don't need the huge amounts of storage (they have 3GSs at the mo)...
 
Sunray said:
Its getting time for another Apple announcement, the iPhone 6 if nothing else. Though if I was them I'd ditch the numbering and change to calling them like cars, the iPhone GTi SE. :)
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I've seen nothing to indicate that they are about to change their announcement and launch schedule for iPhones, so there are many months to go till the iPhone 6 is official previewed.

If you think a new iPhone should be mentioned this soon after the last one, its another indication that Apple messed up by taking one if not two years longer than they should of in coming up with a version with a substantially larger screen. Personally I have had enough of android, am out of contract and would like to get an iPhone again, but the screen size of the present ones makes me extremely tempted to keep waiting.
 
They usually have two announcements per year one about now and one in the autumn. This one has been to showcase software rather than hardware though.
 
Yeah but not that soon for the same line of products, that doesn't offer them as much return on their design & manufacturing investment as they want, and upsets owners (as happened when the iPad 4 came out so soon after the iPad 3). Plus there is a relationship between major versions of iOS being announced in detail (so 3rd party devs can get stuff ready) and the first new iOS hardware that will ship with that version coming out.

This time of year is when iPads used to be announced, but they shifted the timing of that significantly last year (or the year before with the aforementioned iPad 4, I forget) and I've seen nothing to suggest they will switch back to this part of the year again for iPad stuff.

I would say Apple rumours are in an especially confused state this year. There are quite low levels of certainty about things like timescale for a smart watch, the rumours about a television have been going for so many years that their credibility will remain shot unless something more concrete emerges, and initially confident reports about some kind of 'pro' iPad with larger screen recently wobbled in their confidence.

If they are to announce anything more significant than incremental computer hardware upgrades at this point in the year, I suppose my money would be on the more powerful version of the apple tv box that was rumoured recently. Or the smart watch, which I suppose I expect to be announced any day this year.
 
Apple would be foolish not to copy Samsung's "make a phone of every size imaginable" line-up. It's been a massive success because, this might shound crazy, people want different sized phones for different sized hands and different situations :D
 
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