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Apple are like BMW in a world with no Mercedes, Porsche, Lexus or Bentley. They have the whole of the top end of the market to themselves and are laughing all the way to the bank.
They're lost their grip on the top end of the smartphone market though.
 
That was always going to happen.

The only reason they ever owned it and they owned it for far too long, was because the competition was totally shit.

After being handed their arse many times over, the phone manufacturers finally got round to competing.
 
That was always going to happen.

The only reason they ever owned it and they owned it for far too long, was because the competition was totally shit.

After being handed their arse many times over, the phone manufacturers finally got round to competing.

Thats the benefit of the free market for you
 
That was always going to happen.

The only reason they ever owned it and they owned it for far too long, was because the competition was totally shit.

After being handed their arse many times over, the phone manufacturers finally got round to competing.
Android phones have been 'competing' for years. My S2 was far from 'shit' - in fact even that outsold the iPhone.
 
The S2 came out 4 years after the iPhone and Samsung needed Google to compete. Their own OS implementations were terrible iPhone copies before they got Android.

I see that the retina Mini is 'Later in November'. Its essetially an iPad Air but smaller and cheaper and not a great deal more than the Mini.

I can't see how they will sell many more of the 1st gen Mini's, I suppose Apple are just draining down existing stock.
 
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Anyone know why an iPhone would suddenly be unable to spot any wi-fi networks? Just does the whirring searching wheel thing. Tried factory reset and also upgraded the OS... Can't seem to fix it. Is it fucked?
 
Anyone know why an iPhone would suddenly be unable to spot any wi-fi networks? Just does the whirring searching wheel thing. Tried factory reset and also upgraded the OS... Can't seem to fix it. Is it fucked?

No idea...you had this for a while or after updating to iOS 7?
 
Anyone know why an iPhone would suddenly be unable to spot any wi-fi networks? Just does the whirring searching wheel thing. Tried factory reset and also upgraded the OS... Can't seem to fix it. Is it fucked?

If you factory reset it and didn't apply the back up and it still didn't work, yes the wifi may well have stopped working.
 
More thoughts after having used my 5s for a couple of weeks now...


  • I still can't get on with the keyboard. It comes out with gibberish from time to time that seemingly bears no relation to what I tried to type.
  • One area where Android is streets ahead is sharing stuff. Trying to attach things to an email is a (often impossible) joke in iOS.
  • The screen is better than any other phone I've seen/used. Forget meaningless pixel density scores, the way things seem to almost "float" on top of the glass (iirc it's something to do with the way they bond the screen to it?) is lovely.
  • iMessage is brilliant. Start a conversation on my phone continue it on my laptop etc. Very handy.
  • The fingerprint thing isn't a gimmick. It's a great feature, done right. See the new HTC for an example of getting it very wrong.
  • Battery life is amazing (for a smartphone at any rate). I've been using it heavily every day (aka the "shiny new toy effect" :oops: :D) and have yet to see anything less than 20% left by the time I go to bed. Apples claims of optimising code etc seem to be working.
  • Sharing stuff. I'll mention it again because it's so fucking shit. A great example of the Apple way not being the right one. I know it's for security/app stability etc but come on, there has to be a better solution.
  • Apple maps isn't anything like as bad as it's made out to be.

:)
 
Security is only one of the reasons for the sharing/files mess. Its also because Apple had some wacky ideas about eliminating file structures from the minds of its users.

People have some ways to try to work round these limitations, including using something like dropbox & apps that support it. But this is not a comprehensive solution.

In the world of music-making software there are some 'audio clipboard' standards that people use to move sounds between apps that support that stuff, but its still rather clunky.
 
I'm not sure if its just me but I kind of prefer the look and feel of the 5C to the 5S. I quite like phones to feel light and plasticy as long as they perform well under the bonnet, and (maybe strangely subconsciously) it doesn't feel so bad after many months of being chucked about if its got a slight scuff or smudge either. I'm less likely to feel the need to buy all kinds of protective addons and worry about the phone looking nice and shiny.

Also the 5S has those 'precision cut' sharp edges. I like the smooth plastic on the SC. Nicer on the hands when retrieving multiple times from ones pocket.
 
I'm not sure if its just me but I kind of prefer the look and feel of the 5C to the 5S. I quite like phones to feel light and plasticy as long as they perform well under the bonnet, and (maybe strangely subconsciously) it doesn't feel so bad after many months of being chucked about if its got a slight scuff or smudge either. I'm less likely to feel the need to buy all kinds of protective addons and worry about the phone looking nice and shiny.

Also the 5S has those 'precision cut' sharp edges. I like the smooth plastic on the SC. Nicer on the hands when retrieving multiple times from ones pocket.

Can't find the article, but a chap from the register said he much prefered it as well and wanted the 5S guts in a 5C.
 
More thoughts after having used my 5s for a couple of weeks now...


  • I still can't get on with the keyboard. It comes out with gibberish from time to time that seemingly bears no relation to what I tried to type.
  • One area where Android is streets ahead is sharing stuff. Trying to attach things to an email is a (often impossible) joke in iOS.
  • The screen is better than any other phone I've seen/used. Forget meaningless pixel density scores, the way things seem to almost "float" on top of the glass (iirc it's something to do with the way they bond the screen to it?) is lovely.
  • iMessage is brilliant. Start a conversation on my phone continue it on my laptop etc. Very handy.
  • The fingerprint thing isn't a gimmick. It's a great feature, done right. See the new HTC for an example of getting it very wrong.
  • Battery life is amazing (for a smartphone at any rate). I've been using it heavily every day (aka the "shiny new toy effect" :oops: :D) and have yet to see anything less than 20% left by the time I go to bed. Apples claims of optimising code etc seem to be working.
  • Sharing stuff. I'll mention it again because it's so fucking shit. A great example of the Apple way not being the right one. I know it's for security/app stability etc but come on, there has to be a better solution.
  • Apple maps isn't anything like as bad as it's made out to be.

:)

Spot on and agree with every point. The keyboard has been annoying the hell out of me too.
 
I'm not sure if its just me but I kind of prefer the look and feel of the 5C to the 5S. I quite like phones to feel light and plasticy as long as they perform well under the bonnet, and (maybe strangely subconsciously) it doesn't feel so bad after many months of being chucked about if its got a slight scuff or smudge either. I'm less likely to feel the need to buy all kinds of protective addons and worry about the phone looking nice and shiny.

Also the 5S has those 'precision cut' sharp edges. I like the smooth plastic on the SC. Nicer on the hands when retrieving multiple times from ones pocket.

The 5C (like the 3GS) feels much nicer in the hand but the 5S feels snappier to use iyswim.
 
A mate has dumped Blackberry (8 years with them) and bought iPhone 5S (despite my best efforts to persuade him to get a good Android phone), got a text from him the other night saying how great it was. Made me laugh after.:D
 
I think the file sharing thing is down to the brief that iOS was a content consumption device rather than creation, but I agree with Crispy, it needs some focus on interoperability between applications.

I don't have the issue but I don't use it for work, but they dish them out for enterprise sales so I think it will get some more attention at some point.
 
Android really does have sharing nailed compared to iOS.
So much so that if I want to share something that's on my iPad I usually end up finding it in my Android phone and sharing it from there.

Not so much annoying as it is ridiculous.
 
Anyone having issues with the proximity sensor? I keep cutting people off with my cheek. Apparently 7.0.3 fixes it (for some) so I'm downloading it now. It bloody better fix it because it is pissing me right off.
 
Anyone know of any good ios apps that will aggregate updates from various blogs/wordpress sites etc?

Like flipboard does?
 
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