Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[strung out]

is the £505 on the o2 website likely to be the cheapest i can get a contract free iphone 4 for?

 

[maldwyn]

Assuming you're talking about the 16GB, why not pay an extra fiver and get it SIM-free direct from Apple for £510?

 

[strung out]

oh yeah, for some reason i thought it was more expensive

 

[WWWeed]

Hack reveals passwords from locked iPhones and iPads

Researchers have devised a method for stealing passwords stored on locked iPhones and iPads that doesn't require cracking of the device's passcode.

The technique, disclosed on Thursday by members of the Fraunhofer Institute for Secure Information Technology, requires physical access to the targeted iPhone or iPad, so remote attacks aren't possible. But it takes less than six minutes and carry out, and the after effects are easy to conceal, making it ideal to carry out on devices that are lost, stolen or temporarily unattended.

The hack exploits cryptography in the iOS password management system – known as keychain – that uses a secret key that is completely independent of the device's passcode. That saves attackers who manage to access the file system the hassle of deducing a key that's based on a passphrase set up by the user.

“After using a jailbreaking tool, to get access to a command shell, we run a small script to access and decrypt the passwords found in the keychain,” the researchers wrote in a paper (PDF). “The decryption is done with the help of functions provided by the operating system itself.”

The script also reveals always-encrypted account settings for things like user names and server addresses for all stored accounts, as well as the account clear-text secrets. The hack worked on a locked iPhone 4 running iOS 4.2.1, which was the most current firmware version at time of writing. A demo of the attack is available on YouTube - you can view it below.

“The accessibility of keychain secrets without requiring the passcode is considered a result of a trade-off between system security and usage convenience,” the researchers wrote. “The passwords for network related services should be available directly from device startup, without having to enter the passcode first.”



The technique doesn't retrieve passwords stored in parts of the device that remain off limits until the passcode is entered.

Still, the hack can reveal a wealth of sensitive codes, including those used for virtual private networks, Wi-Fi networks, LDAP accounts, voicemail systems and Microsoft Exchange accounts. And that's likely to spook large business customers with employees that use the devices to connect to sensitive company systems. ®

taken from http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/10/iphone_password_retrieval_hack/

I cant believe the iphone/ipad stores sensitive data such as network passwords in plain text!

 

[editor]

Now this *is* funny:



Verizon iPhone launches to humiliating disinterest in Minneapolis
http://www.wirefresh.com/verizon-iphone-launches-to-humiliating-disinterest-in-minneapolis/

 

[Kanda]

Wasn't the massive dump of snow and freezing temperatures a factor?

 

[stupid dogbot]

In fairness, there was another big launch party in Minneapolis last night, too.

 

[Kanda]

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/10/verizon-iphone-launches-to-short-lines-cold-temperatures/

 

[editor]

Wasn't the massive dump of snow and freezing temperatures a factor?

Seeing as all the Apple staff managed to make it in, I wouldn't say it was a huge factor - low turn outs were reported elsewhere too.

This isn't some piddling little hicktown shopping mall either - it's the biggest mall in America!

 

[editor]

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/10/verizon-iphone-launches-to-short-lines-cold-temperatures/

A similar situation was seen in San Francisco, where cold temperatures couldn't be blamed for low turnout. According to CNET, only two people were in line at Apple's Stockton Street flagship store just minutes before opening, with "literally more Apple Store employees, police officers and reporters--each--than people in line to buy iPhones."

 

[Kanda]

Why are you facepalming? I was supporting what you said when I found that article. I'd seen the line you quote.

fucksake....

 

[editor]

Why are you facepalming? I was supporting what you said when I found that article.

fucksake....

Fuck me you're touchy! I was facepalming the laughable flop of a launch, but now you've earned your own facepalm. And here it is, especially for you:

 

[Kanda]

In fairness, there was another big launch party in Minneapolis last night, too.

what was that?

 

[stupid dogbot]

New Sims record, innit*.

Tbh, this was hardly a new product launch, was it? It was the 4 being available on Verizon. Perhaps everyone just already has one...

*Obviously, I'm not actually serious...

 

[sim667]

Why is having iphone on verizon being pushed as such a big thing?

 

[editor]

Is there a smaller iPhone in the works to ward off the explosive growth of Android?

I don't think so, but it'd another rumour:
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...umour-apple-developing-budget-iphone-5-927923

 

[Sunray]

I would be surprised if Apple came up with anything cheap.

 

[editor]

I would be surprised if Apple came up with anything cheap.

Me too, but they must be looking at what's happening with Android which registered an astonishing 888.8% growth in 2010.

 

[Crispy]

Depends on whether they care about volume or profits. I think they'd be quite happy making good money on a smaller market share (which still represents year-on-year growth, just not as fast as the rest)

There's never been a cheap cut-down apple laptop, and I doubt there will be a cheap cut-down apple phone.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Fuck me you're touchy!

Pot/Kettle.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I would be surprised if Apple came up with anything cheap.

I'm not so sure, they introduces a cheaper iPod with the mini after the iPod hit it's fourth gen, so it'd be about time if they are going this route again...

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Apparently of prostitutes that own a smartphone, 70 per cent have BlackBerries while just 11 per cent own iPhones.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Apparently of prostitutes that own a smartphone, 70 per cent have BlackBerries while just 11 per cent own iPhones.

This a recent study you've undertaken?

 

[UnderOpenSky]

This a recent study you've undertaken?

It was hard work, but someone had to do it.

Nah I forgot the link

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It was hard work, but someone had to do it.

Nah I forgot the link

 

[Kid_Eternity]

On a serious note, that's a strange data set to read...never really think about the impact of technology and social media on industries like that...

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I'm surprised there isn't an app for it tbh.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I'm surprised there isn't an app for it tbh.

Oh man...

 

[UnderOpenSky]

It would be making the best use of location based services.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It would be making the best use of location based services.

In app purchases, user reviews...this is so wrong.