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Anyone here had the "No SIM Card is installed " iPhone 4 error (Google it)? Phone's been fine for 3 weeks, and I just started having it today
 
Ok, took it to the Optus shop (provider out here in Oz) and they got it sorted. They said if it happens again uninstall iTunes and it should be right. I don't fucking want to uninstall iTunes. They clearly have no idea about how long it takes sort out iTunes with 120GB of music that has to be sorted, art worked, genius'd etc. Piss off Apple. HTC's looking better by the day.
 
miniGMgoit said:
Ok, took it to the Optus shop (provider out here in Oz) and they got it sorted. They said if it happens again uninstall iTunes and it should be right. I don't fucking want to uninstall iTunes. They clearly have no idea about how long it takes sort out iTunes with 120GB of music that has to be sorted, art worked, genius'd etc. Piss off Apple. HTC's looking better by the day.
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I had a turgid time getting my iPhone to sync with the bag of cack that is iTunes, and Apple's email support was rubbish. I finally got things back to normal again by reinstalling everything but ended up having to pay for some apps (I'd been sent review copies, but Apple's procedure for installing them is so ludicrously fiddly I just gave up).
 
I heard updating iTunes sorted a few problems out, but I agree on the reinstall - right pain in the arse, I had to do it recently and lost all my starred songs, album artwork etc.

Spotify on the phone is annoying - if you use the remote mic to pause the tune then it opens the iPod and starts playing a tune.
 
It's also very easy to backup your starred songs/playlists etc etc... Surely it's just like any other app and wanting to retain preferences????
 
Nah, mine had started to corrupt its database - files pointed to random system files so I had to move and reimport my library and I couldn't get the XLM data to work.
 
I'm always puzzled how these things happened. Ed's story above about iTunes is more baffling, iTunes is the easiest thing in the world, moving to a new machine I just dragged and dropped all my content over...
 
This is probably a stupid question, but I'm a stupid person, so here goes:

I'm going to get a Simplicity sim for him indoors to use my old 3G. I never updated it to iOS4 and have no intention of doing so (I'll be the one maintaining the phone for him because he's got absolutely no idea about technology - even less so than me). It's still got all my old settings on it from before I swapped the sim over to my new iPhone4. When I put the new sim in for him, what will happen? I imagine I'll have to plug it into iTunes as per a new phone? Or will it just accept the new sim and not need any computer jiggery-pokery? Will it wipe my data (this is fine - I'd probably restore to factory settings anyway so it's nice and new for him)? Will it try to install the new OS (this is not fine)? Under no circumstances do I want it to force an upgrade of OS. And of course, I want to know in advance because if there's no way around it I'm not buying the new contract.
 
Vintage Paw said:
This is probably a stupid question, but I'm a stupid person, so here goes:

I'm going to get a Simplicity sim for him indoors to use my old 3G. I never updated it to iOS4 and have no intention of doing so (I'll be the one maintaining the phone for him because he's got absolutely no idea about technology - even less so than me). It's still got all my old settings on it from before I swapped the sim over to my new iPhone4. When I put the new sim in for him, what will happen? I imagine I'll have to plug it into iTunes as per a new phone? Or will it just accept the new sim and not need any computer jiggery-pokery? Will it wipe my data (this is fine - I'd probably restore to factory settings anyway so it's nice and new for him)? Will it try to install the new OS (this is not fine)? Under no circumstances do I want it to force an upgrade of OS. And of course, I want to know in advance because if there's no way around it I'm not buying the new contract.
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I take it it's an unlocked phone or you have unlocked it? (not jailbroken - unlocked)
 
It was O2 originally, and it will be O2 with the new contract. Does it still need to be unlocked? I thought unlocking was for using different carriers or switching between contract and PAYG.

I got a micro-sim before the iPhone 4 came out, activated it in the 3G. Then swapped it to the 4 when I got that, turned off the 3G and it's been in its box ever since.
 
Vintage Paw said:
It was O2 originally, and it will be O2 with the new contract. Does it still need to be unlocked? I thought unlocking was for using different carriers or switching between contract and PAYG.

I got a micro-sim before the iPhone 4 came out, activated it in the 3G. Then swapped it to the 4 when I got that, turned off the 3G and it's been in its box ever since.
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Oh right, same carrier - it's probably worth giving them a call to make sure, it'll either work, they'll unlock it or allow it to work with the new SIM. The carrier is in charge of the unlocking basically.
 
stupid dogbot said:
SIM in, plug it in, select the option to not restore it from a backup, should set it up as new phone. :)
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Ta. And it won't force an upgrade to the new OS? Because that's the bit I'm most worried about tbh. I know you can choose not to whenever you plug it into itunes, but it's jut because it's a new sim/new restory thingy :)

Structaural said:
Oh right, same carrier - it's probably worth giving them a call to make sure, it'll either work, they'll unlock it or allow it to work with the new SIM. The carrier is in charge of the unlocking basically.
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We're going to go down to the shop anyway, so I guess they'll tell us that there. Cheers.
 
Vintage Paw said:
Ta. And it won't force an upgrade to the new OS? Because that's the bit I'm most worried about tbh. I know you can choose not to whenever you plug it into itunes, but it's jut because it's a new sim/new restory thingy :)
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Nope, you've got to specifically tell it to upgrade a 3g, because OS4 isn't a recommended update for that handset.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
I'm always puzzled how these things happened. Ed's story above about iTunes is more baffling, iTunes is the easiest thing in the world, moving to a new machine I just dragged and dropped all my content over...
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As a music player, your right, it is very easy to use. However they have integrated the iPhone into it and my post regarding it fucking up my iPhone should surely have been enough to make you at least think that there could be problems. I'm guessing you don't have an iPhone or at least if you do, don't update it very often. Ultimately my iPhone data is not stored within iTune but online somewhere (else how can they encourage us to uninstall iTunes and reinstall it again). The library file apparently becomes corrupted and this is why the whole thing has to go when it messes up. Why you can't just plug it in and it sorts its self out without going into iTunes is well, a bit weird really, forcing you to use iTunes. Also, I don't know if you have downloaded iTunes lately but the program is rapidly becoming massive. When you add on to it the iPhone additions that come out you can easily be downloading a shit load of stuff that you don't want or need, also I'm living in Darwin which only has ADSL1. The last time I updated iTunes and my phone it took all night to get the updates. Not Apples fault I know but they do seem to be quickly going the way of windows these days when it comes to bloat ware.
 
yep itunes is getting very bloated now. I wish they'd spin off the iphone/touch/pad sync stuff into a seperate app
 
Agreed....or you should get an option of what you want to access. I have zero interest in music videos, TV shows and films. Or indeed Celebrity Playlists :D
 
I hate the way it syncs my phone and touch with the same shit - why o why can't it remember gaga on the phone carpenters on the touch :mad:
 
I'll have another play and see if I can identify the separate panes but so far it's been syncing identical stuff on each device - apps (incl phone apps on the touch), music, books, photos etc

Perhaps if I plugged them both in at once and switched between devices identified I might be able to see a difference.
 
miniGMgoit said:
As a music player, your right, it is very easy to use. However they have integrated the iPhone into it and my post regarding it fucking up my iPhone should surely have been enough to make you at least think that there could be problems. I'm guessing you don't have an iPhone or at least if you do, don't update it very often. Ultimately my iPhone data is not stored within iTune but online somewhere (else how can they encourage us to uninstall iTunes and reinstall it again). The library file apparently becomes corrupted and this is why the whole thing has to go when it messes up. Why you can't just plug it in and it sorts its self out without going into iTunes is well, a bit weird really, forcing you to use iTunes. Also, I don't know if you have downloaded iTunes lately but the program is rapidly becoming massive. When you add on to it the iPhone additions that come out you can easily be downloading a shit load of stuff that you don't want or need, also I'm living in Darwin which only has ADSL1. The last time I updated iTunes and my phone it took all night to get the updates. Not Apples fault I know but they do seem to be quickly going the way of windows these days when it comes to bloat ware.
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Apologies didn't mean to cause offense, it was a genuine point. I had an ipod from 2005 to 2009, then an iPhone, I've recently also moved from a windows laptop to a Macbook Pro. None of my experience of moving music or syncing across those devices or platforms have been anywhere near as complicated as yours.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Apologies didn't mean to cause offense, it was a genuine point. I had an ipod from 2005 to 2009, then an iPhone, I've recently also moved from a windows laptop to a Macbook Pro. None of my experience of moving music or syncing across those devices or platforms have been anywhere near as complicated as yours.
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This, I've had an iPod since 2000, and while I have the odd issue with iTunes, 1st off there are other sync apps available, 2nd its always worked well for me.

Are you sure your disk isn't corrupt in anyway?
 
Sunray said:
This, I've had an iPod since 2000, and while I have the odd issue with iTunes, 1st off there are other sync apps available, 2nd its always worked well for me.

Are you sure your disk isn't corrupt in anyway?
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Is this the same as "you're holding it wrong"? :D

FYI, I had similar problems with my iTunes/iPhone installation and had to reset everything - and there was no shortage of people online who had suffered the same thing.
 
editor said:
I can see what you're trying to do here, but I'm afraid you've just faceplanted into a muddy pool of fail.
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It was merely you rather lazy justification for it it's ok you know you're allowed to hate pietunes and it's bloaty methodology without going in to mega defense mode...

Personally I think it's a bag'o shite program on doze and an ok and much better behaved program on macs but it's still a touch sucky that it's the only way to synch your piefone up and also that since os4 updates it regularly kills off your contacts corrupts and any number of other things including killing your apps etc...

it's not a just works part of the whole piefone experience... (however neither the piefone 4 as far as I'm concerned...)
 
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