Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[stupid dogbot]

Yeah, here at my desk is the worst connection I've ever had on it. Oh noes!

Everywhere else, it's fine.

 

[Winot]

I basically don't receive calls any more on O2 - it goes stright to voicemail no matter where I am (and that can take up to 4 hours to show on visual voicemail).

 

[pinkmonkey]

Vodafone have lots of business contracts, so their coverage is apparently the best

Yep, I first had a company mobile with them over 10 years ago, was impressed and have stuck with them ever since. We run our business from our boat using two of their dongles with no problems, can get a signal in 99% of places on the canal system.

Their overseas data /roaming charges are pretty good (good enough to be cheaper than hotel wifi) and customer services is UK based and free to access.

 

[Kanda]

My Vodafone dongle didn't work in my local pub so I got shot of it

 

[elevendayempire]

Hm, maybe I'll wait 'til the end of my contract and switch over to Vodafone when the iPhone 5 comes out. As we all know it will.

 

[sim667]

Mines been pretty much perfect on 02

only place ive had probs is on a farm in the middle of the country over near brissle somewhere.

 

[stupid dogbot]

Weird. I live in Bristol, never had the remotest problem here or anywhere around. And I never go to Brixton. So I'm staying O2.

 

[Winot]

From what I read, O2's problems are with insufficient 3G coverage in congested areas so I guess Bristol is less congested than Brixton.

 

[editor]

Weird. I live in Bristol, never had the remotest problem here or anywhere around. And I never go to Brixton. So I'm staying O2.

Clearly, it's very much to do with where you are located.

The o2 reception I had back on the train to Cardiff was really awful though - far, far worse than T-Mobile's.

 

[stupid dogbot]

Actually, I have taken my phone to Brixton, once. I got told off for walking down the street using it.

I guess that means it was working.

 

[Xanadu]

My phone switches to UMA (basically making & receiving calls/texts over wi-fi), so I have 100% reception in my flat. That's with Orange btw.

 

[Sunray]

Not sure anyone realises this but Vodaphone and O2 share their networks. Just not the back haul.

I've done the journey to Cornwall many times and not had a problem apart from the usual spots from time to time.

 

[RaverDrew]

Not sure anyone realises this but Vodaphone and O2 share their networks. Just not the back haul.

Not so sure about that, but it seems you may be right. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/23/telefonica_vodafone_network/

How come my o2 dongle doesn't receive any signal at all, yet when I put my mum's vodafone sim in the same dongle I get perfect uninterrupted HSDPA signal ?

 

[Structaural]

Xcode 4: Released yesterday to developers at WWDC, the developer preview version of Xcode 4 is subject to Apple's non-disclosure policy for conference attendees, and thus only a few details have managed to leak out so far. Among the interesting claims coming out, however, is that Interface Builder has been integrated into Xcode, creating a single-window "unified interface" for the development environment.
Xcode 4 Developer Preview is the revolutionary new development environment for building Mac, iPhone, and iPad applications. With it, you can write better code, faster. WWDC attendees can log in and download this new version of Apple's Integrated Development Environment.

link

 

[g force]

Not so sure about that, but it seems you may be right. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/23/telefonica_vodafone_network/

How come my o2 dongle doesn't receive any signal at all, yet when I put my mum's vodafone sim in the same dongle I get perfect uninterrupted HSDPA signal ?

It's not a simple case of having masts whihc companies share it's about how you process the signal and the architecture behind that to deal with the data. Voda is acknowledged to have the best network in that regard.

 

[Sunray]

Not so sure about that, but it seems you may be right. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/23/telefonica_vodafone_network/

How come my o2 dongle doesn't receive any signal at all, yet when I put my mum's vodafone sim in the same dongle I get perfect uninterrupted HSDPA signal ?

You'll probably find that where the signal from both is considered strong enough, they'll not share.

 

[Structaural]

Notifications may end up improved in 4.1 or something. Apple have acquired the Palm Notification guy: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/09/palm-loses-webos-notifications-architect-to-apple/

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Would be about time, notifications on the iPhone are shit. Palm's WebOS is a superb way to do it...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

iPhone 4 upgrade info ahoy!

O2 just emailed with this:

Pay Monthly customers upgrading to iPhone 4

If you're an existing Pay Monthly customer, we have a number of ways for you to upgrade to the new iPhone 4.

Customers currently eligible for an upgrade can easily upgrade online or in an O2 shop, when the phone goes on sale on the 24th of June 2010.

However, even if you're currently in the middle of your minimum term there are a number of options to get your hands on one.

Option 1: Early Upgrade Offer, valid from 24 June to 24 July 2010.

You can pay a reduced one-off charge and upgrade straight away to an iPhone 4. To find out more about your charge and the rules have a look our Early Upgrade Offer.

Option 2: Buy the iPhone 4 on Pay & Go.
If you don't want to upgrade to a new iPhone on a Pay Monthly contract, you can buy an iPhone 4 on Pay & Go. Remember you'll need to continue to pay for your existing Pay Monthly contract.

Pay Monthly customers with O2 Insure can move their new Pay & Go iPhone onto their existing O2 Insure policy. Just give us a call within the first 3 days of purchase to let us know.

Option 3: Wait until you're eligible for an upgrade.

All Pay Monthly O2 customers are part of O2 Priority List and everyone has an opportunity to upgrade early. Have a look at the table below to see how soon you will be eligible for an upgrade.

If you're a Platinum customer... get a 6 month early upgrade
If you're a Gold customer... get a 3 month early upgrade
If you're a Silver or Blue customer... get a 1 month early upgrade
If you don't already know your Priority List tier you'll be able to find out from mid-day 10 June by texting DATE to 21302.

Terms apply. Get more information on O2 Priority List .

Switching to a micro sim

No matter how you choose to upgrade to iPhone 4, you'll need to change your current sim to a micro sim. We'll have more information about this soon.

 

[Vintage Paw]

I'm out of contract on the 8th of July anyway, so I'm going to upgrade to the iPhone4 then. Then him indoors can have my old one (3G), with a Simplicity tariff. I feel he's getting the better end of the deal

I don't have that many problems with O2. Getting 3G can be a bit niggly at times - for example I rarely get it downstairs at home but do upstairs. But then I generally use wi-fi at home. The train journey between Stoke and Derby has a few black out spots where it utterly disappears, but generally it's fine. I'll stick with O2.

 

[editor]

I think if you plotted a graph of the worst possible time to sell an iPhone, the time I chose would be right in the centre. Doh!

 

[ChrisFilter]

I think if you plotted a graph of the worst possible time to sell an iPhone, the time I chose would be right in the centre. Doh!

I'll do you a straight swap for the Desire.

 

[ooo]

I'll do you a straight swap for the Desire.

I'm using a Desire at the moment.
Liking it so far. But it only comes with a 4GB microSD card, comparing to 16GB on the iPhone. Not enough for my on-the-go music collection.

 

[maldwyn]

Glad I sold my 3gs a month ago

I'm now waiting to pre-order a payg on the 15th from apple - assuming they make it available then.

 

[skyscraper101]

Not sure anyone realises this but Vodaphone and O2 share their networks. Just not the back haul.

I've done the journey to Cornwall many times and not had a problem apart from the usual spots from time to time.

Since when have they been doing this?

I can get a vodafone signal at my Mum's in Wiltshire but never an O2 signal. Unless its changed recently that wouldn't make sense.

 

[grit]

Not sure anyone realises this but Vodaphone and O2 share their networks. Just not the back haul.

I've done the journey to Cornwall many times and not had a problem apart from the usual spots from time to time.

That really sounds unlikely, got a link to back it up?

 

[elbows]

Vodafone and Telefonica, which trades as O2 in the UK, have signed a massive network sharing deal to work together across Europe.

The two will share networks in Germany, Spain, Ireland and the UK

In the UK the two will concentrate on building new joint sites and consolidating existing 2G and 3G sites. The companies said: "The network electronics Nodes B (3G), BTS (2G) and the radio network controllers which are linked to the core network are to remain independent."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/23/telefonica_vodafone_network/

 

[grit]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/23/telefonica_vodafone_network/

Learn something new everyday. Looks like once O2 were taken over by telefonica this was brought in, so they are still using separate hardware in some places. Just any new erections (heh) will be joint ventures.

 

[fen_boy]

o2 tariff details http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/tariffs.html

e2a actually there's nothing there about the initial cost of the phone on the various tariffs.

e2a capped data as well. That's new for o2.

 

[g force]

Needs to be seeing as their network is groaning already