Apple iPad and related items

[grit]

Right here:

That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

 

[Crispy]

Thanks for the heads up, i've been waiting for Ars to get their review out - ncie and in depth, one thing I'm hoping gets sorted soon is decent PDF support in iBooks.

And it's nice to finally read something well researched/written by people who have actually used the device...

Ars has become my very favorite tech site for just that reason. No hype. No blogging a blog about a blog about a rumour about a press release. Just knowledgeable people, writing well about technology. No need to be first or shiniest, just good jouranlism. I like

 

[Structaural]

^^^ and they're not afraid to be long-winded, unlike most tech blogs where you're always left wanting more or it's just a cut and paste of the press release. When I see 14 pages to go I'm a happy man.

 

[sunnysidedown]

^^^ and they're not afraid to be long-winded, unlike most tech blogs where you're always left wanting more or it's just a cut and paste of the press release. When I see 14 pages to go I'm a happy man.

did you see their Snow Leopard review? it was about 60 pages

 

[Crispy]

did you see their Snow Leopard review? it was about 60 pages

That guy really knows his OSX
Their science editor has a PhD.

Anyway, enough hugging arstechnica

Nice

 

[sunnysidedown]

^ indeed

 

[editor]

Some blogs have no choice but to write articles based on other reviews, press releases, BB posts, user comments, industry viewpoints and other bits of gleaned information because the manufacturer won't give them a review model and/or it's not available in their country.

That doesn't mean they can't raise valid points or post up interesting observations that even those handling the device may miss.

 

[Crispy]

Well good luck to them, cos I've got no interest in such original-content-free sites.

 

[grit]

Well good luck to them, cos I've got no interest in such original-content-free sites.

++

 

[paolo]

Well good luck to them, cos I've got no interest in such original-content-free sites.

++ too

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Ars has become my very favorite tech site for just that reason. No hype. No blogging a blog about a blog about a rumour about a press release. Just knowledgeable people, writing well about technology. No need to be first or shiniest, just good jouranlism. I like

It is a shining beacon in a squalling sea of Techcrunches and Gizmodos.

 

[editor]

Well good luck to them, cos I've got no interest in such original-content-free sites.

Informed opinion can be original content too, no?

I've sometimes found interesting opinions and points being raised on small blogs, and user opinions elsewhere can be just as valid as some 'big site' opinions posted by 'name' staff writers.

 

[Badgers]

 

[Kanda]

Opinions of others opinions instead of the actual device?

 

[editor]

Good example. How many of these so called 'expert' websites test this important criteria of new products, eh? eh?

 

[Badgers]

Good example. How many of these so called 'expert' websites test this important criteria of new products, eh? eh?

Gap in the market Ed?

 

[Crispy]

Informed opinion can be original content too, no?

I've sometimes found interesting opinions and points being raised on small blogs, and user opinions elsewhere can be just as valid as some 'big site' opinions posted by 'name' staff writers.

It's ok as these things go, but there's 1000s of these sites out there and I don't want to read them all. I read slashdot and this forum and that already takes up too much time! I go to ars because I know that nearly all their content will be worth reading.

 

[editor]

It's ok as these things go, but there's 1000s of these sites out there and I don't want to read them all.

Me neither, but I'm not going to dismiss them all as having no original content either.

 

[Crispy]

ok, then - "very little"

 

[grit]

I've sometimes found interesting opinions and points being raised on small blogs, and user opinions elsewhere can be just as valid as some 'big site' opinions posted by 'name' staff writers.

That usually only happens when the writer has a specific background in the subject.

 

[editor]

That usually only happens when the writer has a specific background in the subject.

Nah. You don't need a doctorate in mobile phones to offer a constructive and valid critique, so long as you've done your research. You're talking to consumers after all, not a room full of electrical engineers.

 

[grit]

Nah. You don't need a doctorate in mobile phones to offer a constructive and valid critique,

You need to have at least used the phone/device in question or have a greater insight than reading a few blogs to add any value.

I guess its this fundamental view that is the root of the friction regarding the article.

 

[Crispy]

didn't realise we were critting a particular article really, it's a general issue I have with the echo-chamber of internet 'journalism' - by accumulation of speculation and rumour, 'stories' come into being and websites start to think they're doing actual reporting.

 

[grit]

didn't realise we were critting a particular article really, it's a general issue I have with the echo-chamber of internet 'journalism' - by accumulation of speculation and rumour, 'stories' come into being and websites start to think they're doing actual reporting.

In general we arnt, just seemed that this part of the discussion had been spurred on by my comments regarding the wirefresh article.

 

[editor]

In general we arnt, just seemed that this part of the discussion had been spurred on by my comments regarding the wirefresh article.

It was a straightforward lie.

I'm getting really bored with you posting unfounded and disruptive personal attacks now, so can you keep your digs to yourself from now on, please? Thanks.

 

[Crispy]

eh? that last post wasn't a dig, ed

 

[editor]

eh? that last post wasn't a dig, ed

His comments about my wirefresh article were. He claimed it was all "cut and paste".

 

[grit]

It was a straightforward lie.

I'm getting really bored with you posting unfounded and disruptive personal attacks now, so can you keep your digs to yourself from now on, please? Thanks.

Personal attacks? Where?

 

[Crispy]

yeah, but he hadn't made any new ones. no point in raking over the coals eh?

actually. warning bells. arguing with ed on tech thread again.

*fucks off*

 

[grit]

His comments about my wirefresh article were. He claimed it was all "cut and paste".

I was claiming that it didn't contain enough content to be worthy of an article. Read it again slowly, out loud if helps with the context.

"I just didnt think that a cut and paste of an Ars review is worthy of an article itself. "

Hardly a vicious personal attack is it?