Apple iPad and related items
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Kid_Eternity
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People get enjoyment in ways other people don't shocker.
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If it's news enough for the BBC to run a video report, it's news enough to comment about it on here.
Jeez: this idiot bought an iPad just to smash it up for some internet 'fame':
http://gizmodo.com/5509032/crazy-guy-smashes-ipad-with-baseball-bat
elbows
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Ive been looking at how much the iPad weighs, and I think its going to annoy people. I believe it weighs about the same as a Samsung Q1, which to me is about twice as heavy as Id really want. I shall still get one, but am tempering my expectations a little. Still if its a lot cooler than the tablets/UMPCs Ive tried in the past then that should help the overall experience, which I found to be pretty dire with the last generation of tablets.
Fingerprints on the screen is another issue which may somewhat hamper peoples joy with this device.
Fingerprints on the screen is another issue which may somewhat hamper peoples joy with this device.
FridgeMagnet
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It's apparently noticeably heavier than the Kindle. As far as fingerprints go, the 3GS' screen has an oleophobic coating which repels oils from fingers, so presumably the iPad does as well - mind you I'd be putting a screen protector on it as I do with my 3GS, because it's not *scratch*-repellent.
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hiraethified
Of course it does more than just show books, but it's certainly being heavily touted a book/magazine/e-reading device.
Sunray
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Comparing a iPad to a Kindle is a very poor comparison no matter what it might be touted as, it does many more things the Kindle wasn't designed to do.
Its much better comparing it to a fast net book.
As for no queues, unlike the iPhone, you can get them from all over the place. The iPhone launch, the only place you could get them was the Apple shop. Instant queue, clapping and hi-fives.
Its much better comparing it to a fast net book.
As for no queues, unlike the iPhone, you can get them from all over the place. The iPhone launch, the only place you could get them was the Apple shop. Instant queue, clapping and hi-fives.
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hiraethified
I don't think that's too accurate a comparison either really, as on specs alone, it fares very poorly against a similarly priced netbook.
However, as a media tablet, it's currently without peer.
sunnysidedown
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Only the US that has this device at the moment, greasy fingers kind of goes with the territory.
elbows
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They are different classes of devices but its still fair to compare them when it comes to weight because both are supposed to be held. There were many terrible flaws with the original PC tablets but for me it was the weight was a dealbreaker. Things arent so bad now but I think its still an issue. I stil expect the iPad to succeed but I dont think we can be completely sure that the tablet form factor is a surefire big hit with a huge part to play in the future - I hope it will because I want tablets to succeed, but even I will give up at some point if the flaws continue to hamper the experience of using tablets.
sunnysidedown
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the bit where your fingers go, so as not to obscure the screen?
sunnysidedown
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I'm interested in the weight, that is actually holding it without resting it for a period of time - so far reviews seem to be more on the 'it's a little heavier than I thought' side of things - hopefully someones working on lighter batteries.
FridgeMagnet
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I've seen more than one person saying that they couldn't imagine holding it upright with one hand for very long like they do with the Kindle or a paperback. I don't think that aspect will affect sales really; a few people who like that aspect of the Kindle and aren't that interested in the other factors might not switch when they otherwise would have, I suppose.
In general, though, sure, the lighter the weight the better; 1.5lbs is a fine "bag weight" and nowhere near the old brick tablet PCs, but if you were on your feet using it for hours it might get annoying (as it would if it weighed much more than a clipboard really). I expect future revisions will work on that.
In general, though, sure, the lighter the weight the better; 1.5lbs is a fine "bag weight" and nowhere near the old brick tablet PCs, but if you were on your feet using it for hours it might get annoying (as it would if it weighed much more than a clipboard really). I expect future revisions will work on that.
sunnysidedown
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I'm not sure how 'critical' a review can be from a lifelong Mac super-fan posting on a Mac bulletin board, but there you go.
Elsewhere the hype really is getting ridiculous:
iPad: "Like the Beatles of 2010"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/04/sunday/main6362239.shtml
elbows
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It seems to highlight quite a lot of the flaws more than any of the 'proper' reviews Ive read so far.
elbows
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Well I disagree with that particular Beatles iPad analogy but I think its true in a different sense: Both have way too much hype but at least there is something substantial beyond the hype.
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hiraethified
It's not unrelenting fanboydom for sure and the writer points out some flaws, but the author admits to being in love with just about anything made by Apple:
Zabo
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I'm given to believe that the Apple freaks and ipad swooners are like a weird Mormon sect. They appear to have lost all sense of objectivity. Ne'er mind eh, the Japanese and a few others will soon give Apple the good fucking they deserve - Compare the eye-eye phone with HTC's new wonderful gear.
Can't last forever. Now which is the best soap powder?
Can't last forever. Now which is the best soap powder?
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hiraethified
It's a ridiculous, inane comparison. Really.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Apple iPad is announced
In my view apple fans are as bad the anti apple brigade, neither offers an honest or objective view...
Zabo said:I'm given to believe that the Apple freaks and ipad swooners are like a weird Mormon sect. They appear to have lost all sense of objectivity. Ne'er mind eh, the Japanese and a few others will soon give Apple the good fucking they deserve - Compare the eye-eye phone with HTC's new wonderful gear.
Can't last forever. Now which is the best soap powder?
In my view apple fans are as bad the anti apple brigade, neither offers an honest or objective view...
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hiraethified
You keep banging on and on about this mysterious "anti-Apple brigade" but where are they? I see endless magazine pages, blogs, Tweets, websites and newspapers full of frothing Apple fans gleefully uploading high fiving videos and superlative-packed praise, but where can I find this "anti-Apple brigade"?
Who's their equivalent of Stephen Fry? Where are the websites? Where are the magazine articles?
Zabo
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I'm not anti-Apple I'm just anti-hype about something which is nothing more than a glorified consumer monitor. I'd rather get excited about the doctors in Oz who are developing real skin tissue that grows for victims of severe burns - no longer plastic surgery. Now that is worth getting excited about not something that a dozen other things can already do.
Do you remember when the iphone was launched? Men screaming and a hollering in front of Jobs as if he had discovered the cure for cancer. Sad bastards.
Do you remember when the iphone was launched? Men screaming and a hollering in front of Jobs as if he had discovered the cure for cancer. Sad bastards.
elbows
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On a number of levels it is a very stupid comparison, I agree. But I really dont think any study of hype and excessive fan devotion would be complete without including The Beatles. Lots of really great music and interesting cultural developments happened in the 1960's, but it was also the decade where hype and consumerism were taken to a whole new level. I dont think there is anything wrong with comparisons on a certain level because whilst bands are not the same as electronic devices, they have a few things in common on the pop culture level.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Just because it fairs poorly does not mean its a bad thing to compare against. They are being targeted at the same market and do similar things. Just the net book with an intel CPU will always have a great advantage.
elbows
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I dont think they are organised, nor do their views have much representation in the media.
But clearly they exist, you are hardly alone in having a bad reaction to the hype, cultural phenomenon and certain aspects of product functionality and other baggage that comes with Apple. Im glad you and plenty of others have this reaction, because Apple would be even creepier and cult-like if the only voices we heard were those of the drooling Apple fanatics. There is a risk of some people overcompensating in the face of the excessively positive reaction Apple stuff gets, but I think it generally balances out in the end. And there are plenty of people who are somewhere in the middle, who will not defend Apple when they do bad things, but will not take every opportunity to hate on them either. They get less attention because they arent out on a limb or clashing with their opposite number every 5 minutes.
FridgeMagnet
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The comment section of any piece in any publication involving an Apple product is guaranteed to include at minimum 35% "only sheep fooled by advertising / rich trendies / stupid people who know nothing about computers buy Apple products" comments. There will also be a good proportion saying "it's just a big iPod Touch, Apple are crap" or "you should buy Android not Apple" or "I'm waiting for the Courier" or "the screen only costs $X and the processor $Y omg they are making a million dollars profit" - but not directly insulting anyone who buys Apple, just calling Apple shit. It's in the rules of the internet apparently. You don't get that when a new Sony or HP product is announced.
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