Apple iPad and related items

[stupid dogbot]

At my charity job, we had a designer who threatened to quit if we replaced his hoary old Apple laptop with anything other than a shiny MBP that he specced.

"Bye then".

 

[gabi]

If you're mid 30's onwards, chances are you A level'd, Degreed & job trained on Mac's pretty exclusively. Why's it comical

I've been on Mac's since 1992 & I've just never really come into contact (or had the need) with PC's - I know them enough to stumble around, but that's about it.

Because as a freelancer you should be able to deal with walking into a studio and using Windows if thats what they're using.

According to my agent when I was freelancing I was one of the few on her books who could do that. Which is prettystupid imo...

 

[Lemon Eddy]

Stephen Fry's frothing fanboyism is getting positively embarrassing now. But then he was being personally escorted around Apple's launch by the iPad's designer.

http://www.stephenfry.com/2010/01/28/ipad-about/

Well, read his article and frankly I don't see it as frothing fanboyism.

And to be fair, he is hideously minted, and is a real gadget freak, so his evalution criteria are unlikely to be the same as most people. In fact if I recall correctly he wrote about a pretty much identical device to the iPad, so this could well be an old dream come true for him

 

[editor]

If Adobe ever abandoned the Mac though, I might have to rethink that.

They're definitely not getting on too well these days.

 

[editor]

Well, read his article and frankly I don't see it as frothing fanboyism.

He'd earlier said how he wanted to 'fondle and lick' the iPad and was 'drooling in anticipation at being able to buy one' which I think you will agree is about as fanboy as you can possibly get.

 

[tarannau]

I'd say they're more indications of a manic gadget freak myself.

Fry's undoubtedly an Apple nut, but he's far from averse from gushing about any technology that takes his fancy.

 

[Pie 1]

Because as a freelancer you should be able to deal with walking into a studio and using Windows if thats what they're using.

According to my agent when I was freelancing I was one of the few on her books who could do that. Which is pretty stupid imo...

Ok fair enough. You're coming across a tad sneery about it though.

 

[sim667]

Its not exactly hard to be able to switch between PC and mac if they need to..........

 

[Structaural]

They're definitely not getting on too well these days.

No, and I blame Apple (mostly). Adobe made the Mac successful, there should be a bit more mutual respect. Though the fact that Adobe like Apple are a victim of their own success and have virtually monopolised the graphics market (buying up Aldus and Macromedia and then killing competing products on the whole) doesn't help. Apple really are their only decent competitor (well in the semi-pro video arena anyway).

 

[Crispy]

Apple released OSX with 2 separate APIs. One was new and based on NeXT, while the other was based on old OS9. They said from the beginning that one day, they'd drop the old API. Adobe ported over their OS9 versions of photoshop etc and never took heed of that warning. Result: No 64-bit support, because the old API can't do it. Result: Massive port/re-write of all the CS applications. No wonder Adobe's pissed off.

 

[Lemon Eddy]

He'd earlier said how he wanted to 'fondle and lick' the iPad and was 'drooling in anticipation at being able to buy one' which I think you will agree is about as fanboy as you can possibly get.

I'm afraid I'd say that it was hyperbole for comedic effect.

 

[g force]

Indeed...he's a mac fan but more than that he's a huge tech geek who mixes heart on the sleeve love of tech with a lovely turn of phrase.

 

[paolo]

But then he was being personally escorted around Apple's launch by the iPad's designer.

Was he?

 

[Crispy]

Was he?

hmmm. yes, looks like the same hands-on that other press sites got

 

[editor]

hmmm. yes, looks like the same hands-on that other press sites got

I don't think they all went for breakfast with Apple design guru Jonathan Ive first, or were personally chaperoned by him around the launch party, though.

http://blogs.reuters.com/richard-ba...-what-theyre-talking-about-apple-via-jpowell/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/maggieshiels/2010/01/the_morning_after_the_tablet.html

 

[ChrisFilter]

I can use both mac and pc and ive freelanced in one or two studios which are pc, but its very rare. as such LOADS of designers simply don't know how to use windows. it's comical.

Surely there isn't any designer who's under, say, 25 who hasn't grown up using PCs in some form or another?

 

[ChrisFilter]

Same here. Most of the guys in our main design team would look at you with horror if you wanted to replace their macs. The higher up the food chain and the more renown an agency the more likely that seems.

+1 for the style over substance argument that can be directed at a lot of the bigger agencies.

 

[gabi]

Surely there isn't any designer who's under, say, 25 who hasn't grown up using PCs in some form or another?

You'd be surprised

 

[pinkmonkey]

If you're mid 30's onwards, chances are you A level'd, Degreed & job trained on Mac's pretty exclusively. Why's it comical

I've been on Mac's since 1992 & I've just never really come into contact (or had the need) with PC's - I know them enough to stumble around, but that's about it.

I learnt Illustrator 1 and photoshop 1 on mac, way before I could use a pc. wtf happened to me then?

I could be the execption to the rule though. I had to give up smoking weed because it motivated me so much I wore myself out!

 

[ChrisFilter]

You'd be surprised

I frequently am.

 

[elbows]

Well Ive been surfing the web with a browser window set to the iPads resolution, using a monitor that has the same pixels per inch as the iPad, and I think it stands a fair chance of being a hit, given time.

 

[editor]

Maybe we'll all look back in about 6 months and be kicking ourselves for not realising what a soaraway success this is destined to be, but right now the gripes are coming in thick and fast:

Apple iPad: bashed by bloggers around the web
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/jan/28/apple-ipad-bashed-bloggers-web

 

[Citizen66]

Can they not just double the res and match the aspect ratio of the iPhone to ensure backwards app compatibility?

Isn't it just going to be an equivalent to the high end Archos devices?

That was my thought It looks just like the archos 9.

 

[Kanda]

I think it will be a success. If the content is thrown out for it, definitely.

 

[Crispy]

If the interface and build quality on that archos tablet is anything like their MP3 players, it'll be SHITE

 

[g force]

Big if though...Sony thought the same of UMD and film studios kinda shrugged. The breadth of book for example will be critical as will the licencing of newspapers and online news content.

 

[Crispy]

Big if though...Sony thought the same of UMD and film studios kinda shrugged. The breadth of book for example will be critical as will the licencing of newspapers and online news content.

Given the way the paper press has been talking about this thing, I should think they'll be all over it. And I think having a fullscreen version of the newspaper to take with me in the morning would actually make me pay for a newspaper again.

 

[Kanda]

..as well as magazine publishing online via iTunes. Huge potential. At last being able to make money online for publishers.

People were creaming about paper magazines with video in them a few weeks ago...

 

[Kanda]

Given the way the paper press has been talking about this thing, I should think they'll be all over it. And I think having a fullscreen version of the newspaper to take with me in the morning would actually make me pay for a newspaper again.

Get the Metro App for your Touch and download the full version before you leave the house....

 

[editor]

Interesting piece on Lifehacker:

The iPad, much like the iPhone, is completely locked down. The user has no control over what she installs on the hardware short of accepting exactly what Apple has approved for it. From past experience, we know what happens when a completely legitimate application—from a huge company that's actually partnered with Apple—doesn't gel with Apple's business plan. They reject it, and you can't use it. And what recourse does the power user have?

Jailbreaking! And certainly the iPad will see plenty of hacking, but only because Apple requires you to hack the device if you actually want control over it yourself. Apple's gotten into the habit of acting like you're renting hardware. They've become the all-powerful, over-restrictive, ambivalent IT person in the sky, restricting what users can and can't install on their hardware.

With a device like the iPhone, most people slowly accepted Apple's IT state over time. Apple's stance is basically that their lockdown is for your own good—they're protecting us from unstable apps, pornography, confusion, and other nasties. And for the most part, it worked, right? iPhones have remained fast, capable, and strong-like-bull, and extremely popular. But conceding that Apple's restrictive policies are to credit is sort of like claiming you've cured cancer because you knocked on wood every morning of your life and, as a result, never got cancer. (Sorry for the weak simile.)

http://lifehacker.com/5458690/the-problem-with-the-apple-ipad