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Frankly Sunray and Filter, speaking as someone who's testing a Dell Latitude and Windows 7 at work I can assure that there's still a considerable difference in the user experience between a Mac laptop and Windows equivalent - see also responses like Kanda's since switching sides. It's hardly particularly relevant given that everyone and his dog assumes that this is going to be a tablet style device rather than another laptop anyway.

Equally, why the fuck people are wittering on about Windows games and more software is a moot point. What possible difference is that going to make to a tablet launch?
 
tarannau said:
Frankly Sunray and Filter, speaking as someone who's testing a Dell Latitude and Windows 7 at work I can assure that there's still a considerable difference in the user experience between a Mac laptop and Windows equivalent - see also responses like Kanda's since switching sides. It's hardly particularly relevant given that everyone and his dog assumes that this is going to be a tablet style device rather than another laptop anyway.

Equally, why the fuck people are wittering on about Windows games and more software is a moot point. What possible difference is that going to make to a tablet launch?
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:D I love you. You're like the changing of a tide.
 
ChrisFilter said:
Only real difference is that there's a fuck load more software (inc games) available for Windows 7.
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Quite a bit comes out of the box with the Mac. I think the only other software I have installed on mine is Adobe Creative Suite, Ableton, Traktor Scratch Pro and Office. Everything else is pretty much there.

Not everyone plays games on a PC. Generally it's a pain in the arse to, upgrading and tweaking all the time. I've got consoles for games.
 
I love the fact that Filter's accusing someone else of being like the 'changing of the tide. As if his daft post had any real relevance.

This is the bloke who changes his routine 'it's great, the best ever' views dependent on whatever object he has in his hands at the time. He doesn't so much bend with the wind, as stoop over whilst building a giant wind turbine on his bonce.

One day he'll grow up and achieve a little consistency.
;)
 
FWIW Kanda, the iphone gaming market has taken off in a serious way. It's a different type of game, and gamer, in the main from the BYO pc gamer market, you know the type who boast how powerful their rig is and how many games are available for it.
 
The difference between Windows and OSX isn't really relevant.

The question is, if you had to choose between a conventional laptop/netbook, or a walled garden tablet, which would you choose?

Hands up here who is prepared to ditch a laptop for this? Srsly?

Or, if you don't have a laptop, would get this instead?
 
I don't have a laptop, but might consider this. If I already had one as my main computer, I probably wouldn't.
 
tarannau said:
I love the fact that Filter's accusing someone else of being like the 'changing of the tide. As if his daft post had any real relevance.

This is the bloke who changes his routine 'it's great, the best ever' views dependent on whatever object he has in his hands at the time. He doesn't so much bend with the wind, as stoop over whilst building a giant wind turbine on his bonce.

One day he'll grow up and achieve a little consistency.
;)
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Don't confuse a preference for best of breed over brand loyalty as inconsistency. I go for the best for my needs and budget, not the one with the Apple badge.

Sometimes the one with the Apple badge is the best I can afford, as per the iPhone.

There's no pride to be had in brand loyalty.
 
Not me, which is what I said at the start of this thread.

But this isn't designed to be a laptop replacement, nor do we really know how it all hangs together yet. Apple's got a challenge on to carve a use for it.
 
tarannau said:
FWIW Kanda, the iphone gaming market has taken off in a serious way. It's a different type of game, and gamer, in the main from the BYO pc gamer market, you know the type who boast how powerful their rig is and how many games are available for it.
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Weak! :D
 
fogbat said:
Also, a hat that gives you psychic powers.
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Hold on a second Filter, you haven't even got consistency and loyalty to your own opinions!

There's no blind brand loyalty here - hell, I'll happily criticise and not pay for Apple products that I don't like - but equally I provide balanced, consistent views on products I use in the main. Unlike you, who'll big up any device they're using at the time and defend it to the hilt... until you get the next device and the cycle starts again. See your comments about the Nokia N9Shit, HTC and then the iphone. A bit of a calmer and more informed approach would have worked wonders.
 
tarannau said:
Hold on a second Filter, you haven't even got consistency and loyalty to your own opinions!

There's no blind brand loyalty here - hell, I'll happily criticise and not pay for Apple products that I don't like - but equally I provide balanced, consistent views on products I use in the main. Unlike you, who'll big up any device they're using at the time and defend it to the hilt... until you get the next device and the cycle starts again. See your comments about the Nokia N9Shit, HTC and then the iphone. A bit of a calmer and more informed approach would have worked wonders.
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Worked wonders for what? :confused:

The N95 was a fantastic piece of kit. As was the Touch HD. However, in time they became second best.

I wouldn't buy something if I didn't think it was the best.

You're a funny fellow ;)
 
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tarannau said:
And next to nobody is a serious gamer on laptop alone, let alone a tablet device so far.
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Define serious? I've been a clan member played on or owned virtually every console going back to coleco vision, I've had gaming laptops and desktops, own a ds lite, xbox 360 and wii; the iPhone is my second most used gaming platform...a tablet would make for some great gaming.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Define serious? I've been a clan member played on or owned virtually every console going back to coleco vision, I've had gaming laptops and desktops, own a ds lite, xbox 360 and wii; the iPhone is my second most used gaming platform...a tablet would make for some great gaming.
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He did say 'so far' ;)
 
By 'serious' I mean the stereotype of the 'must have the latest overclocked processor and graphics card' gamer that's helped power the BYO market. The kind of people who are rarely satisfied with even the latest consoles.

I like the iphone as a gaming platform fwiw, but it's succeeded in a different way, appealing more to the casual, quick or family gamer in a similar way to the wii's carved out a space for itself. That's no bad thing imo, but you'd be blind not to see some of the condescending comments about the wii from 'serious' gamers on here, with much the same said about the iphone as a gaming platform at first.
 
tarannau said:
By 'serious' I mean the stereotype of the 'must have the latest overclocked processor and graphics card' gamer that's helped power the BYO market. .
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Right, so by that curious wriggle of logic, you're going to say that people who fork out in excess of £2,000 for a gaming laptop aren't really serious gamers at all, yes?
 
no, but they're a tiny proportion of the laptop buying public, one willing to compromise small things like portability and appearance for the latest and greatest Alienware pigtop or similar. Most of the most committed of byo gamers will avoid laptops for their general lack of upgrade potential

People aren't buying laptops in droves to play the latest and greatest games, nor to replicate the more social area of iphone style gaming fwiw. The tablet's a different thing entirely again
 
Apple 'iSlate'

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Right, so by that curious wriggle of logic, you're going to say that people who fork out in excess of £2,000 for a gaming laptop aren't really serious gamers at all, yes?
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Heh it's a bullshit term and charactisation to make a point if you ask me...
 
editor said:
Right, so by that curious wriggle of logic, you're going to say that people who fork out in excess of £2,000 for a gaming laptop aren't really serious gamers at all, yes?
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Of course they are, but I'd be surprised if many of them didn't have a more powerful rig at home. Toys like that are bought for LAN parties and the like.
 
Well hasn't there been a message from above yet?

I thought this announcement was supposed to be happening today.
 
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