Apple iPad and related items
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Shippou-Sensei
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Is that actually real - I mean can a fanboi actually hug Steve at night if they wanted too???
some fanboy somewhere with better photoshop skills than me (actually i did it in gimp as i'm on my work laptop) probably does have one somewhere
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
I'll piss myself laughing if after all this they just announce a new sort of mouse and an update to Time Machine 
I'm just saying that using a Dell laptop as a price comparator is daft. Apple's laptops rarely compete on price directly, let alone a new product.
A lower price than a Macbook perhaps, but that's do with the Apple product Matrix rather than trying to compare different families of products from a different manufacturer. I doubt, given Apple's latest financial results, that they'll be in any rush to abandon the premium price positioning.
A lower price than a Macbook perhaps, but that's do with the Apple product Matrix rather than trying to compare different families of products from a different manufacturer. I doubt, given Apple's latest financial results, that they'll be in any rush to abandon the premium price positioning.
And I never recall there being a concensus that it would (solely) be a reader.
You're merging two seperate questions:
(a) What one expects Apple to do.
(b) Whether one is convinced by that.
I expect Apple to make a premium priced mid-sized 'thing'
I am not convinced there's a proper market for mid-sized 'things'. I'd buy a replacement laptop instead. (This may or may not be what Sunray was driving at)
TBH I said pretty much the same thing on the first page of this or similar thread - I'm doubtful there's enough of a market for it, unless there's more up the sleeve than first appears.
Comparing any Apple product, let alone this new thing, to a bargain Dell laptop remains a daft comparison whatever though. If there's one thing Apple doesn't want to be associated with, it's an uninspired pile em high, sell em cheap product assembly merchant like Dill.
Comparing any Apple product, let alone this new thing, to a bargain Dell laptop remains a daft comparison whatever though. If there's one thing Apple doesn't want to be associated with, it's an uninspired pile em high, sell em cheap product assembly merchant like Dill.
I agree that it's not Apple's business to compete with bland-o me-too products.
That people will or will not make price comparisons is a *seperate* point.
I personally would look at that kind of money and think, hmmm, could get a new laptop for that. It doesn't mean I think that Apple should be making yet-another-yawn laptop.
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hiraethified
There's nothing wrong with 'pile 'em high' products - not everyone can afford Apple's lofty prices after all, and it's good that companies like Dell make computing affordable to all - but they can also produce some excellent and innovative products.
Kanda
Diving wanker
$2k
That's the Adamo right? The original model of which worked out to be more expensive, less powerful and desirable than the much criticised Macbook Air.
That's a fairly direct comparison. That's a world apart from trying to compare mock ups of a possible tablet with a bum standard Dell laptop.
That's a fairly direct comparison. That's a world apart from trying to compare mock ups of a possible tablet with a bum standard Dell laptop.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
You miss my point entirely.
It has to have significant added value to make a laptop of a similar price less attractive. If they are going down the iPhone netbook route, then its a walled garden lock in to the App store and iTunes. This proved a very successful format for a mobile phone, mainly down to the horrendous fragmentation of the applications in other sectors, low prices and slick end to end integration.
If this model is moved into a larger device its moving into the the laptop space. I am nearly 100% certain however lovely the device will be and its certain it will be a gorgeous thing, that walled garden Apple control will look shabby against even their own laptops.
It will make it a lot less attractive to someone when they can buy a proper laptop that does everything the tablet does and a mega load more with no wait for applications, for a very similar price. Applications on the iPhone took the best part of a year to start to properly mature. There will be less of a wait for the tablet as devs can just scale their apps up but not all will be applicable, but there is still going to be a wait.
Buy a laptop and you get it all and you get it right now.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
But you do have a lot more notes left in your pocket...
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
There is precious little difference between OSX and Windows 7 in terms of what they can do and the user experience. Go for a Dell and you get a much more powerful machine for the same money, not as well engineered but it will do the same.
There is a world of difference between a laptop running OSX or Windows 7 and some Apple controlled walled garden device. If they operate in the same price arena, who in their right mind will be choosing the Apple Tablet over a fully fledged laptop? If you've a wad of cash in your pocket and want something cool, OK go get one. But given the choice, I already own an iPhone and a laptop that does exactly what I need. How many people already have both of those? They are going to have to generate some spectacular added value to get me interested.
There is a world of difference between a laptop running OSX or Windows 7 and some Apple controlled walled garden device. If they operate in the same price arena, who in their right mind will be choosing the Apple Tablet over a fully fledged laptop? If you've a wad of cash in your pocket and want something cool, OK go get one. But given the choice, I already own an iPhone and a laptop that does exactly what I need. How many people already have both of those? They are going to have to generate some spectacular added value to get me interested.
All these Johnny-come-latelys and their macboy fixations eh.
Sunray's talk of laptops seems to really miss the point. Like the smartphone market, having one device do it all (badly) isn't the key to building a market for a new product. It's doing things in a compelling fashion that counts. We'll see if the tablet has that wow factor.
Sunray's talk of laptops seems to really miss the point. Like the smartphone market, having one device do it all (badly) isn't the key to building a market for a new product. It's doing things in a compelling fashion that counts. We'll see if the tablet has that wow factor.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
You actually need that answered for you?
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Only real difference is that there's a fuck load more software (inc games) available for Windows 7.
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