Which isn't really encouraging creativity, is it?
Helps with the $ale$ of paint though kerching kerching.
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Which isn't really encouraging creativity, is it?
Helps with the $ale$ of paint though kerching kerching.
tbf, I never did 'colour by numbers.' The closest I got was probably drawing on space wolf grey to get the *broadly* right colour for my marines.
The *only* alternatives my teen brain could conceive of were other paints that came in pots; and I'd seen what happened to Simon H******'s models when he tried that, and they were coated in a bold-as-you-fucking-like shiny layer about 3mm thick. I think he'd used one-coat weatherproof gloss emulsion Hammerite, or something, tbf
Ermmmmm....
Depends what you mean by creativity. If you've got 100 paints lined up, with hints as to what they could be used for, then - IMO - that probably liberated my (creatively autistic) brain.
It'd also be daft to think that the paint was the end of it - I didn't see any when I browsed just now, but back in the day there were inks. That you could build up layers of depth and richness and nuance with, overlaying the paint.
tbf, you're starting out by putting paint onto a pre-constructed, pre-armoured, pre-shaped model; I'm not convinced that having 100 specific shades of paint necessarily takes much away from creativity, from that point on
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
ah but other people may THINK their armour is blue, but its not. Ultramarines go to a pecil stockist.
Everybody else is just wearing very very light black
Everybody else is just wearing very very light black
Ermmmmm....
Depends what you mean by creativity. If you've got 100 paints lined up, with hints as to what they could be used for, then - IMO - that probably liberated my (creatively autistic) brain.
It'd also be daft to think that the paint was the end of it - I didn't see any when I browsed just now, but back in the day there were inks. That you could build up layers of depth and richness and nuance with, overlaying the paint.
tbf, you're starting out by putting paint onto a pre-constructed, pre-armoured, pre-shaped model; I'm not convinced that having 100 specific shades of paint necessarily takes much away from creativity, from that point on
I meant this colour for space marines. This colour for chaos armour. This colour for nurgles' teeth. Do they have nurgles and chaos in warhammer? I ask because I play bloodbowl and am informed that the races used in that stems from warhammer.
Yesss....
I'm not sure to what extent *most* painters would follow that, though.
Like, your most fuck-arsed 10 year old would probably just bathe every piece of armour in 'blood angel' (*spit*) 'red'. Without shading or nuance. Or inflection or shadow.
Like, by the time you're hitting 13, you're probably looking for variations on a theme; so, like, how to keep that blood angel (*spits*) core, but also looking for interesting ways of varying it; how to embed similar, complementary colours. How to work out a colour scheme. How to personalise your army / your personal cohort of your army. Etc.
And possibly even inventing a chapter of your own. There *used* to be - in one of the codices, or whatever the fuck - a very long list of space marine chapters and epaulettes, giving *all sorts* of potential inspirations for colour schemes.
And, tbh / IMO, having access to 13 pre-prepared shades of red / green / whatever could actually be quite useful wrt that.
I had an utterly ridiculous army of L4 terminator librarians, back in the day. Before they introduced rules about how many of what you could have, and what else you needed. Something like 10,000 points for about 10 models. They massively lost the only battle they fought in (*massively* lost), but... erm... IIRC, they were in some *very creative* space marine colours.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
humbrol paints don't have awesome names like bestial brown and blodd angel red and so on.
)Humbrol was what I used back when it was all about D&D rather than warhammer.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I recall lead era Warhammer- the move to noticably-cheaper-sveltre for the models was strangely not reflected with a drop in model price whatsoever 
Kid_Eternity
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Think about how much it costs to get good at painting, all that practice...jesus this hobby is a fucking rip off these days. When I got out of it me and my friends were outraged at being charged nearly 5 quid for 3 metal figures. Now it costs 15 quid for five PLASTIC ones!
Think about how much it costs to get good at painting, all that practice...jesus this hobby is a fucking rip off these days. When I got out of it me and my friends were outraged at being charged nearly 5 quid for 3 metal figures. Now it costs 15 quid for five PLASTIC ones!
I can't believe the price of lego nowadays. Perhaps it was pricey when i was young when I didn't understand money really. But a fiver for a bloke and a few blocks or sixty to seventy quid for the fire station etc.
Kid_Eternity
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I can't believe the price of lego nowadays. Perhaps it was pricey when i was young when I didn't understand money really. But a fiver for a bloke and a few blocks or sixty to seventy quid for the fire station etc.
Yup been through this one buying it for my kid bro, plastic can't have gotten that expensive?
Or was it comparatively expensive in the past when we didn't understand money?
The big sets aren't worth more than thirty quid imo, forty at a push.
bouncer_the_dog
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In defence of the paints if you follow the pro guides and use the range you get really good results. The problem is they are such a massive rip off! Games workshop is such a weird company, they have legions of unshakable fans, and clearly very talented people working for them but it is riven with the most blatant corporate greed rip off streak. It was always like that. When I was a kid I used to buy white dwarf and reverse engineer the rules from the article - because I could never afford the books. looking back I don't think I ever have actually played the game! Nowadays I can afford it - but I don't like feeling ripped off. So I search ebay and discount sites for stuff. I will take a punt on the 6th edition boxed set. My plan is to buy it, paint it, put it all back in the box, put the box back on a shelf and the wait patiently until I can persuade someone to play the game!
It looks a fuckin expensive game to get into.
Rulebook - £50
Choose your army. Then:
Codex £20
Battleforce 'starter' army £70
Paints - well what is the minimum you can get away with?
And then bits an pieces like some tools and terrain can add another fifty onto that.
I like how forking out seventy quid for a battleforce just aids you to 'start' an army or 'bolster' an existing one. How much does the complete deal come to? how big is the complete army?
Rulebook - £50
Choose your army. Then:
Codex £20
Battleforce 'starter' army £70
Paints - well what is the minimum you can get away with?
And then bits an pieces like some tools and terrain can add another fifty onto that.
I like how forking out seventy quid for a battleforce just aids you to 'start' an army or 'bolster' an existing one. How much does the complete deal come to?
how big is the complete army?DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
torrent the rulebook on pdf- nothing. Use Mutant Chronicle minatures and so on- cheaper. Build your own terrain with paper mache, flock etc.
no kid wants to have the council version tho do they
no kid wants to have the council version tho do they
fractionMan
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It's gets worse as the rears roll on. It's unbelievable nowdays, no way can they sustain it.
We used to mod our own stuff back then for epic spacemarine. 3 whirlwinds cost a fortune - 3 rhinos with things stuck on the roof is loads cheaper. Artillery rocked in epic
We used to mod our own stuff back then for epic spacemarine. 3 whirlwinds cost a fortune - 3 rhinos with things stuck on the roof is loads cheaper. Artillery rocked in epic
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Pseudopsycho
I ate all your bees
Better make it a weekend. With booze. Lots of booze
fractionMan
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like
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Double like.
bouncer_the_dog
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lets all go to Nottingham where they have a pub done up like an orcs lair and a wharehouse full of gaming tables
Wharehouse with an a?
Boppity
Meet me in Outer Space.
If you go to Nottingham this weekend a bunch of my friends will be there. If you see a guy called Robbo say hi, if theres another guy there with him named Andy then give him a smack round the head for me.
bouncer_the_dog
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So on top of the £200 im gonna have to fork out for my 'starter' army i'm going to have to set aside funds for hotel rooms?
It better be a fuckin good game.
The train tickets about £100 too
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