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Anti-Fascist/Anti-Racist demo - Cardiff Saturday 5th June

Brockway said:
Talking of the Guardian think this report is pretty poor. Makes it sound like an extreme Welsh Nationalist day out, when in fact it was mostly EDL. She doesn't mention the EDL once. Most of them were from the Midlands, Bristol and London apparently.
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That's definitely a piss poor account of the day. I've left her a sternly worded reprimand on the comments! :D

Brockway said:
Roddy Moreno: Cardiff legend. :cool:

Was disappointed by how few of the Cardiff arts community were there - unless I missed them. You know, all those right on Guardian-reading, Chapter Arts subsidy-chaser types. Only saw one writer there and he's from Manchester. Maybe they were all at Hay. Tarquins. :p
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Well, there was me and another mate from the Sherman there. That's about 7% of the Sherman Cymru staff - just imagine if we'd had 7% of the population of Cardiff out with us! I met two freelance designers, and I read a tweet from one of our playwrights that he was there, so there was a few "arts" types, but as Sherman is east of the river, I agree with your comments on the fucking westside Chapter brigade :rolleyes::D
 
Another report here:

http://standuptohate.blogspot.com/2010/06/edl-racists-came-to-wales-and-people.html

After a long wait we had a little excitement when four men started walking towards the anti-racist protest line. They had shaven heads and looked like your typical stereotype EDL racist supporters – some of our protestors started to boo them and shout ‘shame on you’ as they walked closer to our enclosed area. It wasn’t until they were up to the barrier that one of their number opened his jacket and showed a SHARP (Skin Heads Against Racial Prejudice) t-shirt. Just goes to show everyone can all be guilty of judging a book by the cover!
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Quite! Will some ever learn this lesson?
 
much better things to quote from that article audiotech
The EDL - and I call them EDL deliberately, not WDL. This was not a separate group trying to defend Wales from some imaginary influx of scary Muslims, many of them wore English flags and they all chanted ‘E, E, EDL’. Not WDL. These were the same football hooligans we have seen up and down Britain, rioting and trying to stir up racial hatred. So – the EDL started to turn up in small numbers about an hour after our march had finished. When the first lot arrived – maybe 20 of them – they were greeted with chants from the anti-racist protestors and lots of placards were waved. We later found out that they were brought into the city by bus; there was no EDL march.
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and i saw this first hand
When the time came for the EDL to move on, about an hour after they arrived, the police decided to clear the park directly in front of the EDL occupied courtyard of our group of protestors. The line they surrounded us with started to move forward, and our group moved backwards to accommodate their request. However it soon became clear that the intention was to clear the park entirely and let the EDL go home with no goodbyes from us. The protestors stopped complying with the requests of the police and stood their ground, arguing that we would leave until the EDL left and we would not allow the EDL to move anywhere in the city without being challenged.

The police tried to push us out of the park, but we would not be moved. As still we were only given the option to leave and not to re-join the main anti-EDL demo.
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They also tried pushing us onto the ROAD !! i kicked off at some coppers and they then let everyone go into where we started !!
 
Just a theory, but from what I've heard it would have been less of a fuss if the police had just not bothered policing it. The EDL would have shit themselves, wouldm have been outnumbered. taken a kicking and would probably never be seen again. Is this just simplistic or am i well wide of the reality of the situation? It just seems that after all the talk before hand the EDL march was non existant.
 
If there was no Police they would have been battered, i saw docks boys ready to do serious harm.

I cant see them ever coming back.
 
B0B2oo9 said:
If there was no Police they would have been battered, i saw docks boys ready to do serious harm.

I cant see them ever coming back.
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My point exactly, would have saved a lot of time and money in the long run.
 
agreed

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it would have been less of a fuss but there would have been a nasty incident!
the police were ok in parts but blatantly not in others and far too eager to push manhandle and shove people for nothing even when asked firmly to stop.
someone in this group below said to the police that they were not wanted or needed
i was in this group and had my arm grabbed, shoved constantly into people, my bike grabbed and manhandled and shoved even when i asked for them to stop, some of them were deliberately standing on my back wheel and joking that i should learn and not bring my bike next time!

as the quote from this blog says towards the end, the ground was stood and we dispersed
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http://standuptohate.blogspot.com/2010/06/edl-racists-came-to-wales-and-people.html

over £250,000 to police it, forces are going to get fed up soon enough
 
Col_Buendia said:
That's definitely a piss poor account of the day. I've left her a sternly worded reprimand on the comments! :D



Well, there was me and another mate from the Sherman there. That's about 7% of the Sherman Cymru staff - just imagine if we'd had 7% of the population of Cardiff out with us! I met two freelance designers, and I read a tweet from one of our playwrights that he was there, so there was a few "arts" types, but as Sherman is east of the river, I agree with your comments on the fucking westside Chapter brigade :rolleyes::D
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Good use of "manichean" in your sternly worded reprimand. :)

If the UAF had organised some street theatre and free wine half of Canton and Pontcanna would have shown up. Next time, maybe. :D
 
Marshy himself on Annis Abraham message board

oh, instead of threatening me and chopsing off you should be thanking me. I brought you an exciting afternoon of shouting and trying to attack people, many of them english (the bristol ones i nearly had a fight with a few of them myself, clowns) if this demo wasnt on youd have had no-one to throw stuff at.
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:facepalm:

other than that he has been pretty quiet
 
I heard reports that the EDL smashed up a car in Dinas Powys outside a pub for some reason. I think it was in general a good day, UAF needs to definitely sharpen up on some tactics, don't think the mix was entirely right & some comrades were somewhat conservative. I tend to tilt partially towards Clint Iguana's thinking, though I guess you need to get the mix right between a mass demonstration and militant tactics. I wasn't on the march but I heard it got good response from locals with people coming out of their houses to applaud and some joining. A bit odd that there were 5 weddings going on all day in the middle of the demo's, the wedding photo's will be great - the bride and groom surrounded by riot police, vans and protestors.

in swansea, the counter-demo went ahead which was lucky, because some fash did turn up, but they were once again unable to get into Castle Square - maybe they should just try sneaking in at midnight or something when nobody's around. apparently the police called someone from swansea uaf and told him he would be arrested if he called a demo & repeated the threat on the day. any reports from swansea?

anyone here on the very last leg of the demo?

I texted a friend of mine to say i was at the pub & he said, I'm still on the demo, mate, we're tailing their police escort down to the train station shouting abuse at them and getting stopped by the police every so often, they stayed at the station until the fash got on the train
 
Got banned from that facebook group soul crew the shame of Wales and the UK... lol

The sad fucked even deleted every post i made on there.. LOL

using my other account now.
 
ta for that demotix link, big up the photographers :)

i'm in 2 of them :hmm:
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fucking right!
 
Brockway said:
Roddy Moreno: Cardiff legend. :cool:

Was disappointed by how few of the Cardiff arts community were there - unless I missed them. You know, all those right on Guardian-reading, Chapter Arts subsidy-chaser types. Only saw one writer there and he's from Manchester. Maybe they were all at Hay. Tarquins. :p
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I used to work with Roddy :) he is a legend


b23
 
this pic shows where the minibus was stopped by the black people carrier
whoever drove that is a fucking star
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one thing i heard was that someone got out of the minibus and hit/slapped a woman (maybe on this thread) and the other vehicle stopped to redress...could be bollox obv. does anyone know anymore without endangering individuals obv?
 
As soon as I saw the area with the sound system I knew it was going to be penned in so got out very quickly.

managed to stay on the lawn despite being threatened with arrest 3 times.

Also managed to avoid getting penned on the lawn and followed the edl to where they passed at the end of queen street with many many people following and giving them grief all the way.

Well done Cardiff ! :D:)
 
Look at those flags.

Wolves FC? Israel? Bristol City? Fuck's sake.

I'm not a judgemental person usually, but just looking at the pictures of the EDL, they are vile, awful people. The looks of hate on their faces. They're 95% male as well! Our crowd was mixed, alot more women, lots of colours and all communities represented. And our crowd was actually from Cardiff FFS!
 
LOL, about the Swansea Demo !!

http://forum.planetswans.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76879&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=102

Ill admit i went down to this, but by god am i ashamed of myself, ill admit to being racist, but these people compared to me make me look like ghandi... i have a new look on things now, scum the lot of them, dont know why i thought it would be a good idea to go, the EDL might spout some good slogans, but they attract some fo the dullest, interbred looking people ever

i live in shame for now
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lewislewis said:
Come to think of it, I do remember seeing a group of toughs in the anti-fascist demo, doc martens, shaven heads etc, I assumed they were anti-racist punks or something, they may well have been CCFC affiliated or soul crew or something (I don't know enough about football hooliganism to tell).
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these guys? He was wearing a SHARP badge on his arm. fair play !!!

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in case you don't know SHARP

Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice (SHARP) are anti-racist skinheads who oppose neo-Nazis and other political racists, particularly if those racists identify themselves as skinheads.

SHARPs recognize the biracial origins of the skinhead subculture, and resent what they see as the hijacking of the skinhead name by white power skinheads. The SHARP logo is based on the logo of Trojan Records, which originally mainly released black Jamaican ska, rocksteady and reggae artists. Beyond the issue of anti-racism, there is no official political ideology of SHARP.
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