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Anelka's quenelle

frogwoman said:
see the pages and pages of discussion on the topic .
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To be fair, I didn't read the thread because the title didn't make sense to me. I didn't know what an anelka was, never mind a quenelle.

It's only since the story moved to the front pages of the newspapers that I read up on the French comedian at the root of this.
 
Obnoxiousness said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_banned_from_entering_the_United_Kingdom

Mostly Muslims.
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You might want to have a quick re-count.

Of the 16 names in the first section, "Home Office List", 8 have names which suggest they are of Muslim origin.

Of the 36 names in the "Other notable individuals banned or refused entry" section, 13 names which suggest they are of Muslim origin.

And in the final section, "Individuals previously banned or refused entry", none of the 14 people have names which suggest, to me at least, that they are of Muslim origin.

So that's 21 people out of a total of 66, which is slightly less than one third
 
Remove 8 dead people from the 66, which gives us a total of 58, then add Mike Tyson and that's 22 people out of 58, which is 38%. And then consider that the remaining 36 people are probably from a diversity of different religions, so in reality the Muslim faith has a fair chance of being the majority on the list.
 
Obnoxiousness said:
Remove 8 dead people from the 66, which gives us a total of 58, then add Mike Tyson and that's 22 people out of 58, which is 38%. And then consider that the remaining 36 people are probably from a diversity of different religions, so in reality the Muslim faith has a fair chance of being the majority on the list.
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That's just nonsense though.

Why would you remove the 8 dead people, other than that they might not support your argument?

I'll give you Mike Tyson (you're welcome to him TBH), I'd forgotten about his conversion, but this is a list which you suggested demonstrated your assertion, so you can forget that bullshit about "consider that the remaining people are probably from a diversity of different religions", unless you can demonstrate that another 11 of them are Muslim, you don't even have half, far less "most" which was your original claim.
 
its just stupid

person says jews control the world, so he gets banned from various countries' immigration departments as well as his shows being banned by the government

yeah that's really gonna show him isn't it all the other anti-semites are gonna look at that and say "what was i thinking? jews definitely don't control the world and this guy is just whinging about nothing, how could i have been this stupid? The scales have fallen from my eyes!"

:facepalm: :(
 
So why was Jobbik allowed to enter the country? If Dieudonné is an anti-Semite, then so are they. Where's the consistency? Does Theresa May prefer Jobbik's anti-Semitism to M'bala M'bala's? Fucking crétins.
 
whereas if anti-fascists had been able to do something about it, ie by writing to the venue themselves, or protesting outside/disrupting his show, then that would have had quite a big impact
 
You're right, of course. Still, I have a hard time having any sympathy for him.

It does seem rather an attempt to brush this under the carpet and hope it'll be forgotten about.
 
nino_savatte said:
So why was Jobbik allowed to enter the country? If Dieudonné is an anti-Semite, then so are they. Where's the consistency? Does Theresa May prefer Jobbik's anti-Semitism to M'bala M'bala's? Fucking crétins.
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they want to make it seem like they're "doing something" about it without actually doing anything and without the political fallout that banning the leader of one of hungary's largest parties would bring
 
stupid dogbot said:
You're right, of course. Still, I have a hard time having any sympathy for him.

It does seem rather an attempt to brush this under the carpet and hope it'll be forgotten about.
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i don't have any sympathy, he's an anti-semitic piece of shit, but it's not about him, what if next time it's a left-wing french comedian making jokes about rich people?

also, i'd also rather not give any credence to his views that "the jews" control politics and have people saying "well you know what maybe he's got a point"
 
frogwoman said:
they want to make it seem like they're "doing something" about it without actually doing anything and without the political fallout that banning the leader of one of hungary's largest parties would bring
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I figured that Jobbik weren't banned because they're in the EU parliament, yet Geert Wilders was banned - admittedly by a Labour Home Secretary. Says a lot about the Tories, that does.
 
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