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phildwyer said:
On the contrary, I have consistenly argued that anti-semitism is the socialism of fools.

Anti-semites cannot be anti-capitalists because they attribute the faults of capital to Jews.
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phildwyer said:
No, I've studied Third Way Fascism, Strasserism and Islamic Judeophobia quite thoroughly, thank you.

I'm convinced that "right-wing" is a stupid way to conceive any of them. Because among many other reasons it ignores their undoubted, passionate and potentially rather useful anti-capitalism.
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Pickman's model said:
it's strange how you seem determined to avoid posting anything from a reputable source instead diving straight into linking to 'far-right' sites even after people pull you up on it.
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Much as it pains me to say so, you appear to have a point here.

It does seem that this article (Churchill's "Zionism versus Bolshevism" from the Illustrated Sunday Herald in 1920) is only reproduced in full on freaky or weirdo websites.

So a genuine question (for anyone): is the article authentic? I wasn't aware of any dispute on the matter, but maybe there is?
 
phildwyer said:
Much as it pains me to say so, you appear to have a point here.

It does seem that this article (Churchill's "Zionism versus Bolshevism" from the Illustrated Sunday Herald in 1920) is only reproduced in full on freaky or weirdo websites.

So a genuine question (for anyone): is the article authentic? I wasn't aware of any dispute on the matter, but maybe there is?
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and you affect to be an academic. few of your posts here exhibit any evidence of the ability to critically evaluate evidence.
 
Theisticle said:
From the protest yesterday.

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"France for the french! Jews! Zionists out of France"

https://twitter.com/Herissident/status/427454258758569984
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Fucking kill the lot of them.
 
Apologies if this has been posted before, but....if not....here is John Lichfield's Indy account of a Dieudonné Bordeaux performance:-

Looking around the people crowded into the Bordeaux ice-rink, it is difficult to believe that they were sincerely anti-semitic. Most have probably never met a Jew. And yet, in January 2014, to hear 5,000 people baying angrily at each mention of a Jew is deeply unsettling.

Is Dieudonné a comedian or politician? First and foremost, he is a businessman. As the audience leave, they snap up T-shirts showing "Dieudo" doing the quenelle at €40 a time. There is also a man handing out leaflets for a book-signing in Bordeaux next month by Alain Soral, a virulently anti-semitic French intellectual, light years to the right of the Marine Le Pen and the National Front. Soral is a friend of Dieudonné

The leaflet man says: "You've seen Dieudonné. Now come and see the man who inspired him." Why not? The master could hardly be worse than the pupil.
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andysays said:
Well Phil, if you were as all knowing as you think you are, you would know that's actually a reference to an nonsense accusation that was made of me by someone else a few months ago. If it's a jibe at anyone, it's a jibe at them not Laurie Penny. TBH, I'd forgotten all about it and although it's still in my profile it hasn't been my tagline for some time.

Your posturing has affected your take on reality Andy,

Ok for whats its worth;
Your parents werre both journalists, late of the Guardian (before that the, ahem, Sun, but we wont mention that).
You grew up in a big house in East Dulwich.
You went to private school.
Your ex is a corporate lawyer who works for an investemnt bank.
Your child goes to private school.
I dont know what LPs background is but Im guessing not as comfortable as yours.

Sorry but the fact you are an unemployed (currently living off an inheritance from mummy) misfit with no family or friends who spends all day, every day online, wanking or on here desperately trying to be liked, is entirely your own doing.
See the thing is, unlike most people in your situation you've had every advantage in life. And for the record, being upset the the workd and everyone in it is not running arround kissing your ass does not mean you are disabled, it means you are a massively entitled cunt with an ego thta does not match your skills set.
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Oh yeah and, Andy, quick tip;

If you are going to try to grass someone uup to the DWP for claiming tax credits as a single person while living with someone, like you have just done to me, the trick is it has to be true, otherwise you are just providing amusement to said ex and her flatmates.
Did feel slightly sorry for the DWP guy on the end of the phone though, he sounded embarrassed.
Like all bullies you are a massive coward.
 
suki456 said:
Oh yeah and, Andy, quick tip;

If you are going to try to grass someone uup to the DWP for claiming tax credits as a single person while living with someone, like you have just done to me, the trick is it has to be true, otherwise you are just providing amusement to said ex and her flatmates.
Did feel slightly sorry for the DWP guy on the end of the phone though, he sounded embarrassed.
Like all bullies you are a massive coward.
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I'm sorry if someone has reported you to the DWP, but it wasn't me.

TBH, I think it says more about you than me that you should accuse me of this, nearly two years after we split up, especially as you're the one who has repeatedly attempted to maintain some sort of vendetta against me, including accusing me of owing you money, turning up here and ranting about me, and, er, threatening to report me to the DWP for something or other.

I have no reason to report you to the DWP. I know nothing about your current living arrangements and have no interest in them. I'd be quite happy never to hear from you again.
 
Teaboy said:
What a strange thread this has become.
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Roy: Do you ever have the feeling that things that happen to us are strange.
Moss: How so, Roy?
Roy: Well, remember when I had to pretend to be disabled and ended up in Manchester. That wasn´t a normal thing to happen, was it? Or when you ended up spending the night in that arcade machine. That was not.
Moss: I suppose those were unusual events.
Roy: And this is strange, what is happening to us is strange.
Jen: Well, at least it will be over soon.
 
suki456 said:
Your posturing has affected your take on reality Andy,

Ok for whats its worth;
Your parents werre both journalists, late of the Guardian (before that the, ahem, Sun, but we wont mention that).
You grew up in a big house in East Dulwich.
You went to private school.
Your ex is a corporate lawyer who works for an investemnt bank.
Your child goes to private school.
I dont know what LPs background is but Im guessing not as comfortable as yours.

Sorry but the fact you are an unemployed (currently living off an inheritance from mummy) misfit with no family or friends who spends all day, every day online, wanking or on here desperately trying to be liked, is entirely your own doing.
See the thing is, unlike most people in your situation you've had every advantage in life. And for the record, being upset the the workd and everyone in it is not running arround kissing your ass does not mean you are disabled, it means you are a massively entitled cunt with an ego thta does not match your skills set.
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I don't intend to go through this list, correcting the various distortions, exaggerations and down right mistakes.

If anyone else here wants to take the rantings of a vengeful and vindictive ex-partner seriously and take them as a genuine picture of me, then go ahead.

For the record, I did go to a private school - my parents decided to send me there when I was 11 and won a scholarship. It's safe to say that I didn't fit in, I hated it and I don't expect the school will be using me an example of a successful ex-pupil anytime soon.

And although I'm not in favour of private education and would like to see everyone able access the same standard of education, I've never engaged in any of the private/grammar/whatever school discussions here as I think my position might well be seen (possibly rightly) by many as hypocritical, or at least unhelpful.

Hopefully the derail is over now.
 
Idris2002 said:
Roy: Do you ever have the feeling that things that happen to us are strange.
Moss: How so, Roy?
Roy: Well, remember when I had to pretend to be disabled and ended up in Manchester. That wasn´t a normal thing to happen, was it? Or when you ended up spending the night in that arcade machine. That was not.
Moss: I suppose those were unusual events.
Roy: And this is strange, what is happening to us is strange.
Jen: Well, at least it will be over soon.
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Hopefully it's over now
 
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