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Allegations of widespread sexual exploitation of Calais migrants by British volunteers

that it can be invested in the infrastructure to the benefit of everyone.

I've had enough of this say what you're trying to say or fuck off.
You think the solution lies in investment, without knowing what that term means; when pushed, you picked one dictionary definition, without giving any thought to the assumptions implicit in it. Why don't you think, rather than ask to be spoon fed? Just go back over the last couple of pages; the point I am making is obvious.
 
You think the solution lies in investment, without knowing what that term means; when pushed, you picked one dictionary definition, without giving any thought to the assumptions implicit in it.

It's the definition I'd use in these circumstances. Like with energy efficiency you make a relatively small up front

investment

and you gain the benefits in lower energy bills. You make an up front

investment

in infrastructure and you gain the benefits of improving conditions for people.

Why don't you think, rather than ask to be spoon fed? Just go back over the last couple of pages; the point I am making is obvious.

Yes I've done that, and you've just come across as an arrogant twat. Say what point you're trying to make and why it's relevant to solving the structural problems I'm talking about.
 
Why talk about it when I can go to Calais and do it? I'd get away with it too judging by the attitudes on this thread.

Only somebody who has never cared about, helped out with or visited and volunteered in the Calais camp would say something so pathetically self important. You are a disgrace.
 
It's the definition I'd use in these circumstances. Like with energy efficiency you make a relatively small up front

investment

and you gain the benefits in lower energy bills. You make an up front

investment

in infrastructure and you gain the benefits of improving conditions for people.



Yes I've done that, and you've just come across as an arrogant twat. Say what point you're trying to make and why it's relevant to solving the structural problems I'm talking about.

I can't be arsed to engage with woolly-minded liberal sentiment right now. Sorry.

Suffice to say that I suspect you don't understand the nature of the structure which causes the problem, so cannot conceive of any solution outside a very narrow frame of reference.
 
Sexual exploitation can't happen in the camps because "Only somebody who has never cared about, helped out with or visited and volunteered in the Calais camp would say something so pathetically self important"?
 
I can't be arsed to engage with woolly-minded liberal sentiment right now. Sorry.

Suffice to say that I suspect you don't understand the nature of the structure which causes the problem, so cannot conceive of any solution outside a very narrow frame of reference.

Goodoh, I can't be arsed to engaged with some arrogant twat who doesn't seem to understand that you can't magic a solution to problems into being. If you'd made the point you wanted to make we could have discussed it, but it doesn't look like you're interested.
 
Only somebody who has never cared about, helped out with or visited and volunteered in the Calais camp would say something so pathetically self important. You are a disgrace.

what does Calais mean to you?

You ask people to be serious but then you talk about it like a gap year in Mongangabizie.

I did Children in Need for 20 years and raised over 400 billion pounds, you go and heat up tins of soup for African lads in the worst African slum in France and think you're Florence Nightingale
 
Sexual exploitation can't happen in the camps because "Only somebody who has never cared about, helped out with or visited and volunteered in the Calais camp would say something so pathetically self important"?

No one has denied it is happening or has happened. Stop pretending you care about the day to day physical, emotional or sexual welfare of anyone in the camp in Calais. You don't give a shit.
 
Goodoh, I can't be arsed to engaged with some arrogant twat who doesn't seem to understand that you can't magic a solution to problems into being. If you'd made the point you wanted to make we could have discussed it, but it doesn't look like you're interested.

Nothing I've said implies I think someone can be magic-ed up.

I'm not interested in discussing this with you, now, no. Sorry.
 
what does Calais mean to you?

You ask people to be serious but then you talk about it like a gap year in Mongangabizie.

I did Children in Need for 20 years and raised over 400 billion pounds, you go and heat up tins of soup for African lads in the worst African slum in France and think you're Florence Nightingale

You have fuck all knowledge about what my involvement has been in Calais, elsewhere or my day to day work. It's because of all those things that you have fuck all knowledge of I ask people not to troll this thread. We are actually speaking about people and their struggles. Fair game for you?

Also, not only African 'lads' are resident in Calais. Your characterisation is interesting.

"20 years with Children in need'...raised £400 billion pounds all on your own? SELF IMPORTANT TWAT no you didn't. And having been part of children in need and wider fundraising does not give you authority to fuck with this thread and THINK you know what the fuck is going on.
 
No one has denied it is happening or has happened. Stop pretending you care about the day to day physical, emotional or sexual welfare of anyone in the camp in Calais. You don't give a shit.

I could not give a shit about the people in Calais neither could you the difference is I admit it.
 
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