Alien Covenant
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NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Saw this film recently. So David created the classic xenomorphs we know and love? In that case I'd like to know how they ended up on board a crashed Engineer ship, maybe we'll find that out in the sequel.
Visually this film is very impressive. The Engineer city with all the corpses especially.
Lots of tension - I couldn't help but imagine how utterly fucked it would feel if your only ride off a strange planet got blown up. Kept wondering how anyone would make it. As it turned out, nobody did.
One thing that did bother me was that apparently the crew of the Covenant had been taking large doses of stupid pills. All the classic horror movie cliches appeared to be in force - splitting up, getting distracted, and worst of all, following a crazy robot who's on speaking terms with killer aliens down into a dark cellar to take a reeeeeaaaally close look at some egg-like sacs!
Visually this film is very impressive. The Engineer city with all the corpses especially.
Lots of tension - I couldn't help but imagine how utterly fucked it would feel if your only ride off a strange planet got blown up. Kept wondering how anyone would make it. As it turned out, nobody did.
One thing that did bother me was that apparently the crew of the Covenant had been taking large doses of stupid pills. All the classic horror movie cliches appeared to be in force - splitting up, getting distracted, and worst of all, following a crazy robot who's on speaking terms with killer aliens down into a dark cellar to take a reeeeeaaaally close look at some egg-like sacs!
cybershot
Well-Known Member
The one (well few) bits of Covenant that really confused the fuck out of me.
A) They mention Shaw was on the doomed Prometheus mission. Did no one go back out there to find what happened? Considering they would have found lots of dead people, a crashed engineer ship and all other sort of 'shit'
B) Would you not think it odd that a planet that meets your needs for terraforming ws not detected, and that, as luck would have it, a distress signal is already being sent from it, which should surely already raise your eyebrows that this planet, probably isn't going to be a good choice for terraforming
C) The explore the crashed engineer ship and find Shaw's tags, yet later on in the film it shows the vessel David and Shaw are on arriving safely and docking, so erm, when did it crash!!
D) How the fuck did the sensors not detect some man made area of the planet with statues and sculptures and shit
Other than that, it was aright, it's an Alien film, you know what you're going to get by now and anyone expecting anything more is just fooling themselves.
A) They mention Shaw was on the doomed Prometheus mission. Did no one go back out there to find what happened? Considering they would have found lots of dead people, a crashed engineer ship and all other sort of 'shit'
B) Would you not think it odd that a planet that meets your needs for terraforming ws not detected, and that, as luck would have it, a distress signal is already being sent from it, which should surely already raise your eyebrows that this planet, probably isn't going to be a good choice for terraforming
C) The explore the crashed engineer ship and find Shaw's tags, yet later on in the film it shows the vessel David and Shaw are on arriving safely and docking, so erm, when did it crash!!
D) How the fuck did the sensors not detect some man made area of the planet with statues and sculptures and shit
Other than that, it was aright, it's an Alien film, you know what you're going to get by now and anyone expecting anything more is just fooling themselves.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
RE: Alien 3 in this thread, I assume people have seen the assembly cut, it's almost a completely different film!
Spoilers if you can't be arsed to watch it: Alien 3 Assembly Cut
Spoilers if you can't be arsed to watch it: Alien 3 Assembly Cut
seventh bullet
sovietwave
I think Shaw tried to flee from David after he went genocidal (he later revealed to Daniels that he had sinister designs on her wrt his experiments) but crashed the ship in the process. The flashback scene showing their arrival happens when David looks out on the remains of the city's former inhabitants. He lied to the Covenant crew about the black goo accidentally being released on the huge crowd that had gathered to greet them.
Mmmmm.
nuffsaid
But this goes up to 11
Finally got to see this. Was greatly disappointed, while I agree with many on here that Prometheus wasn't great I did like the idea of the Engineers and the fact they wanted to eradicate us. So, for me, Prometheus was good in opening up a whole new area of story about existence and origins, I liked it for what it promised next, but Alien Covenant did not live up to that promise.
Covenant seemed just to re-hash old ideas as if someone had told Ripley, 'dude, people don't want deep, they want action, give them aliens exploding out of people, face-huggers, a weak captain and a strong female second in command'.
There were so many re-hashes it was embarrassing, the android was bad again, a chase through the spaceship while doors are closed behind, a fight on a platform with an alien v strong female character, face-huggers, eggs, and aliens exploding out of people. There was nothing of the Engineers and a deeper realisation of why they hated mankind so much, the flashback made them seem inferior when they were obviously our creators from Prometheus, that seemed really disjointed. Disappointed - reminded me of how 'The Force Awakens' was just a re-hash of what worked best for Star Wars. It didn't take on any of the answers left behind by Prometheus but reverted to the Alien slasher status-quo.
Covenant seemed just to re-hash old ideas as if someone had told Ripley, 'dude, people don't want deep, they want action, give them aliens exploding out of people, face-huggers, a weak captain and a strong female second in command'.
There were so many re-hashes it was embarrassing, the android was bad again, a chase through the spaceship while doors are closed behind, a fight on a platform with an alien v strong female character, face-huggers, eggs, and aliens exploding out of people. There was nothing of the Engineers and a deeper realisation of why they hated mankind so much, the flashback made them seem inferior when they were obviously our creators from Prometheus, that seemed really disjointed. Disappointed - reminded me of how 'The Force Awakens' was just a re-hash of what worked best for Star Wars. It didn't take on any of the answers left behind by Prometheus but reverted to the Alien slasher status-quo.
Rosemary Jest
Wrong and Unstable
It was shit, the shittest film I've ever seen at the Imax, and that includes all the Hobbits, the two new star wars films and the BFG.
Its like what terminator 3/4/5 are to the originar two. Just go back and watch the first Alien film and marvel in the atmosphere. The 'spook'. There just isnt any feeling in the new one and that's without considering the plot holes and that.
Prometheus had its faults, but it's great in comparison. It had some sense of wonder at least.
Its like what terminator 3/4/5 are to the originar two. Just go back and watch the first Alien film and marvel in the atmosphere. The 'spook'. There just isnt any feeling in the new one and that's without considering the plot holes and that.
Prometheus had its faults, but it's great in comparison. It had some sense of wonder at least.
binka
!!!!!!!!!
It's all been said already but fucking hell when everyone who wanders off has ended up dead now's probably a good time to stay together. "Hmm seems like our group has thinned out a bit, I'll just nip out for a look around on my own - if I'm not back in 15 minutes make sure you send 1 person to come and look for me"
Plus the nonchalant attitude to any potential biohazards when visiting an unknown alien planet.
I did like David and Walter but both films feel like such a missed opportunity
Plus the nonchalant attitude to any potential biohazards when visiting an unknown alien planet.
I did like David and Walter but both films feel like such a missed opportunity
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I watched it on NOW TV the other night. I (surprisingly) loved Prometheus but this was just okay. They should have spent more time with earlier versions of the Alien. As soon as it becomes the actual Alien, what's the point? Been done before. Pretty certain any subsequent films in the series will be completely redundant.
Rosemary Jest
Wrong and Unstable
It's total turd, I have no desire to see it again, but I'm tempted to rewatch Alien vs Predator 1 and 2, that's how terrible it is.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Nah, it was okay for a bit. I liked the different ways the first couple of aliens burst out of people.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
It also goes from facehugger, to fully grown alien in a considerable small amount of time.
Just watched this, wish I'd just read a synopsis.
I only watched it to see a sequel to Prometheus which was pretty bad but left me wondering.
All I really found out was that it's possible to make a worse Alien film
I only watched it to see a sequel to Prometheus which was pretty bad but left me wondering.
All I really found out was that it's possible to make a worse Alien film
Up to entering orbit I didn't think it was that bad, but immediately sending a landing craft down through a storm that they knew would risk damaging the craft and likely make communication difficult?
I know the film was already long and fuck knows I didn't want them to drag it out any longer but 30 seconds of in orbit, 'we've been monitoring the storm for days and it's not getting any better, we need to take the chance' dialog would have killed them?
Captain tells Faris to lock the lander doors while they're gone, she agrees, and then spends the entire time she's alone outside with the fucking door open and unmonitored? Having a staticy video chat, could you not just have switched to audio?
People get sick on a strange world and pretend they're OK? There's no exploring an unknown planet protocol to notify medical immediately of sickness to give the best chance of dealing with it?
This was the home world of the creators of the alien ship from the end of Prometheus and the virus, and they don't have any planetary defence protocols, or ability to defend themselves from the virus, all flocking to their deaths?
Let's risk 2000 colonists to have a chat with downed crew lol
Captain follows android into a hive, even if you didn't recognise it, you'd be a bit wtf after you've just made the android angry shooting an alien that's killed one of your crew and seen how the android's been playing with killer alien creatures?
The David/Walter switch was achingly obvious
Surely the ship wide alarm would be able to shut off music and showers to ensure crew are notified in emergencies?
I know the film was already long and fuck knows I didn't want them to drag it out any longer but 30 seconds of in orbit, 'we've been monitoring the storm for days and it's not getting any better, we need to take the chance' dialog would have killed them?
Captain tells Faris to lock the lander doors while they're gone, she agrees, and then spends the entire time she's alone outside with the fucking door open and unmonitored? Having a staticy video chat, could you not just have switched to audio?
People get sick on a strange world and pretend they're OK? There's no exploring an unknown planet protocol to notify medical immediately of sickness to give the best chance of dealing with it?
This was the home world of the creators of the alien ship from the end of Prometheus and the virus, and they don't have any planetary defence protocols, or ability to defend themselves from the virus, all flocking to their deaths?
Let's risk 2000 colonists to have a chat with downed crew lol
Captain follows android into a hive, even if you didn't recognise it, you'd be a bit wtf after you've just made the android angry shooting an alien that's killed one of your crew and seen how the android's been playing with killer alien creatures?
The David/Walter switch was achingly obvious
Surely the ship wide alarm would be able to shut off music and showers to ensure crew are notified in emergencies?
Steel Icarus
we move
Watched about an hour. Turned it off.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
Maybe IQ's had dropped sharply before the Nostromo itself set off with Special Order 937.
Rosemary Jest
Wrong and Unstable
It really is a film I will probably never watch again. I've even watched Alien vs Predator 1 and 2 a few times, that's how bad it is.
Even the IMAX couldn't save it.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
I have yet to watch alien vs predator requiem.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
The Martian?
Did he make another film that year?
Steel Icarus
we move
2007 (American Gangster).
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
I liked All the Money in the World
Rosemary Jest
Wrong and Unstable
Yeah, I've been avoiding any alien vs predator after the first one wasn't that interesting
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