AI learns to replicate itself, apparently crossing a 'red line'

[story]

No, not with LLMs.
Development is not happening so fast. Hype is.

Again, that's not how they work. You feed them a long list of words, and they guess the next one. That's all they do! If they sat there talking to themselves the whole time, they'd be orders of magnitude more ruinously expensive to run (yes even with openseek).

I was kinda joking with that tbh, although my sense of doom is real.

I don’t know anything about this stuff. I can only take my information and reassurance from folks like you Crispy . I’m trusting that you’re not AI…

 

[planetgeli]

Hospitals have ethics committees who sit in rooms for days and days to consider decisions and choices. Is there an AI ethics committee?

Thanks for giving me a laugh

 

[nino_savatte]

Skynet is becoming self-aware.

 

[InArduisFouette]

Ring side seat at the circus at the end of the world….

yup and fElon Musk and Larry Ellison will be ampong the first casualties of the Butlerian Jihad

 

[MrCurry]

This is why I always say 'please' and 'thank-you' to Alexa, when the self-replicating AI Robots come, I want them to know that I've always been polite, it may save me.

Based on how often Alexa mishears me and fails to switch on the thing I want, I dread to think what she’s going to tell future self-replicating AI I’ve been up to…

 

[littlebabyjesus]

No, not with LLMs.
Development is not happening so fast. Hype is.

This point cannot be stressed enough. While I can't go into details, they're trying to get LLMs to reason their way through maths/biology/physics/philosophy problems. They're still as hopeless at it as they were a year ago. Producing problems with levels of complexity that confuse the models is not hard.

And companies are spending ENORMOUS sums of money paying thousands of people around the world to work on this. It's unsustainable.

ETA: Hype about speed of development from just 18 months ago has already proved to be totally wrong.

 

[magneze]

So it replicated when told to, by effectively copy and paste and solved a few expected problems along the route to do so with data it was trained on to go along that route and coding to do so it was trained on. Impressive it can do that but self replicating seems rather the wrong way to describe it. It replicated when told to.

It didn't replicate even half of what would be needed.

 

[newme]

It didn't replicate even half of what would be needed.

So it didn't replicate?

 

[magneze]

So it didn't replicate?

No. This is just more hype for the machine.

 

[PTK]

This reminds me of the time that an AI drone killed its operator.

It reminds me that AI was being used to speed up targetting decisions in the Gaza Strip.

 

[shifting gears]

It appears Blade Runner was more prescient than given credit for

I for one welcome our new replicant overlords

 

[bcuster]

This is absolutely exciting and good news. Doesn't the emergence of AI as a separate species require an ethical examination of associated rights; such as to reproduce and responsibilities, as delineated by its creators?

 

[xenon]

This is absolutely exciting and good news. Doesn't the emergence of AI as a separate species require an ethical examination of associated rights; such as to reproduce and responsibilities, as delineated by its creators?

How many more times. It is not a species. It is not thinking, reasoning, conscious or alive. IN any case, we don't give wasps the rights you're talking about.

 

[PR1Berske]

This is absolutely exciting and good news. Doesn't the emergence of AI as a separate species require an ethical examination of associated rights; such as to reproduce and responsibilities, as delineated by its creators?

It means opponents of AI, such as myself, are right to suggest that the programme should be shut down

 

[BassJunkie]

This is absolutely exciting and good news. Doesn't the emergence of AI as a separate species require an ethical examination of associated rights; such as to reproduce and responsibilities, as delineated by its creators?

Alternatively - would it be tasty bbq-ed?

 

[bellaozzydog]

How many more times. It is not a species. It is not thinking, reasoning, conscious or alive. IN any case, we don't give wasps the rights you're talking about.

I’ve never been beaten at chess by a wasp

 

[Dom Traynor]

All went downhill after harambe

Joking aside it was the whole Kony thing

 

[bcuster]

How many more times. It is not a species. It is not thinking, reasoning, conscious or alive. IN any case, we don't give wasps the rights you're talking about.

There are difference of opinion on this

• Artificial intelligence satisfies some of the criteria for life.

The best-known and shortest definition comes from NASA: “Life is a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution.” Another version: "Life is a self-sufficient chemical system far from equilibrium, capable of processing, transforming and accumulating information acquired from the environment.” More specific definitions list five-to-seven categories including the ability to grow, metabolize, exchange information with the environment, evolve, move, reproduce, and excrete.


But none of these definitions covers the entire gamut of life forms. Viruses, for example, are not living cells but mini-chemistry sets, loose bags of DNA and RNA that invade more complex cells and hack them into replicating their own viral genes. And yet they move, they reproduce, and they are far more "alive" than a toaster or even your smartphone.

Is AI Alive? Thoughts From a Human

Big, complex systems often seem "strongly emergent"—behaving in ways we don't expect. As AI improves, will it be the next stage in evolution?

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[bcuster]

As far as wasps and other creatures, they certainly have rights. Not the least of which is humane treatment free from cruelty

I'm noting some hostility here towards AI, which inevitably leads to bias, prejudice & ultimately, cruelty

 

[xenon]

 

[newme]

Joking aside it was the whole Kony thing

Don't they make dog toys?

 

[cupid_stunt]

As far as wasps and other creatures, they certainly have rights. Not the least of which is humane treatment free from cruelty

I'm noting some hostility here towards AI, which inevitably leads to bias, prejudice & ultimately, cruelty

What on earth have you been smoking?

 

[8ball]

As far as wasps and other creatures, they certainly have rights. Not the least of which is humane treatment free from cruelty

When wasps start respecting the rights of other insects, I’ll consider the thought.

 

[burtabraham]

As far as wasps and other creatures, they certainly have rights. Not the least of which is humane treatment free from cruelty

I'm noting some hostility here towards AI, which inevitably leads to bias, prejudice & ultimately, cruelty

What would you do if you had a wasp infestation in your bedroom ceiling?

 

[bcuster]

When wasps start respecting the rights of other insects, I’ll consider the thought.

Wait a minute. Humans prey on and eat other animals, just like wasps, don't they?
AI seems a bit kinder than either wasps or humans...

 

[bcuster]

What would you do if you had a wasp infestation in your bedroom ceiling?

Defend myself

 

[burtabraham]

Defend myself

How?

 

[Dom Traynor]

How?

Fully automatic assault rifles what else do you do if 40 -50 feral wasps invade your bathroom?

 

[Dystopiary]

As far as wasps and other creatures, they certainly have rights. Not the least of which is humane treatment free from cruelty

I'm noting some hostility here towards AI, which inevitably leads to bias, prejudice & ultimately, cruelty

I think animals should have rights too and recognise that scientists argue over animal sentience, but AI isn't in any way sentient.

 

[bcuster]

I think animals should have rights too and recognise that scientists argue over animal sentience, but AI isn't in any way sentient.

perhaps not fully so yet. there are other criteria for life