Actions against the policing bill

[Shechemite]

Yeah, it’s just healthcare and totally separate from political and economic agendas (is that a thing, anywhere?). As we can see in the AWP communique upthread.

 

[Pickman's model]

I thought it was there to make sick people better, but sure.

mib has a solid point here

 

[Shechemite]

Be still my beating heart

 

[Pickman's model]

Be still my beating heart

coming just days after teuchter said something vaguely worth reading I think we may be seeing events prophesied for the end times

 

[BristolEcho]

I brought it up in work. Most people supported the protest. Uncertain about how far it went but largely supportive of the protest which is an understandable public stance.

 

[BristolEcho]

id much rather have the NHS than not have it, but it is there to maintain capital and the state, it’s really not that incongruous for an NHS Trust to issue something like this

Absolutely. The whole recovery model is also weighted towards the capitalist idea of recovery. It might not be stuck too, but it's definitely there.

 

[Shechemite]

yep.

Make you better? You’re not sick. Take ownership, take responsibility, get off benefits/services, back into work. Recovery

 

[Pickman's model]

I see crime in Avon is really low so the cops can assign scores of officers to track down people from the other day Man charged over homemade spear at Bristol 'kill the bill' riot

 

[teqniq]

Entirely predictable I'm afraid. I bet they're going through all the CCTV and bodycam (which amazingly hasn't gotten 'lost') footage with a fine tooth-comb.

 

[Mr Moose]

I see crime in Avon is really low so the cops can assign scores of officers to track down people from the other day Man charged over homemade spear at Bristol 'kill the bill' riot

It’s depressing that lots of people are going to get punished harshly. It was evident from the news pictures that people will be identifiable.

 

[Pickman's model]

It’s depressing that lots of people are going to get punished harshly. It was evident from the news pictures that people will be identifiable.

Yeh and this has nothing to do with justice, it has everything to do with the cops reacting to losing control.

 

[existentialist]

I thought it was there to make sick people better, but sure.

That isn't always very evident with mental healthcare. Although, of course, a large reason for that has been the chronic underfunding of the sector over decades.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

It’s depressing that lots of people are going to get punished harshly. It was evident from the news pictures that people will be identifiable.

Especially during the pandemic, when it will be impossible to punish or prevent the wearing of masks, people should be encouraged so to do, and hats and hoods etc All to stop the virus from identifying individuals.

 

[strung out]

Yeah, it’s just healthcare and totally separate from political and economic agendas (is that a thing, anywhere?). As we can see in the AWP communique upthread.

I disagree that that's what the NHS is there to do, but accept that that may be what it ends up doing.

 

[Pickman's model]

Especially during the pandemic, when it will be impossible to punish or prevent the wearing of masks, people should be encouraged so to do, and hats and hoods etc All to stop the virus from identifying individuals.

Yeh after all the efforts cops and politicians have made to ban the wearing of masks on demos it seems to fly in the face of reason to abandon wearing them now

 

[Treacle Toes]

It just makes our movements very easy to demonise/ridicule as far as I can see. I mean the antivaxxers/conspiracy side of things of course...

They/we are being demonised anyway and there is naff all we can do about that. We can't stop the antivaxxers doing/being what they are. It's certainly not an ideal situation, far from it. I suppose all things considered I still possess 'hope' and that is what is helping me see that the State being bombarded with descent from all sides as a good thing. Naive, for sure but not willfully so. We can't ignore the back drop to all of this, the daily evidence of just how corrupt and dishonest the tories are...more and more people are seeing that.

 

[muscovyduck]

you kinda get the impression with the NHS if you gave it enough money it'd sort its own problems out but that definitely wouldn't happen with the police

 

[hitmouse]

People are currently gathering at College Green in Bristol to highlight the disproportionate impact the Bill will have on travellers.

Oh no! (((police officers and people who have friends or family who are police officers)))

Especially during the pandemic, when it will be impossible to punish or prevent the wearing of masks, people should be encouraged so to do, and hats and hoods etc All to stop the virus from identifying individuals.

I swear I remember once seeing something that was worded along the lines of "baseball caps and sunglasses can help protect your skin from the harmful effects of UV and CCTV rays" or something similar. Can anyone remember/know what the source of that would have been?

 

[Cid]

They/we are being demonised anyway and there is naff all we can do about that. We can't stop the antivaxxers doing/being what they are. It's certainly not an ideal situation, far from it. I suppose all things considered I still possess 'hope' and that is what is helping me see that the State being bombarded with descent from all sides as a good thing. Naive, for sure but not willfully so. We can't ignore the back drop to all of this, the daily evidence of just how corrupt and dishonest the tories are...more and more people are seeing that.

I think for me it gets back to Corbyn, and in line with that the people many of us got into bed with around the STWC etc back in the day. Should we be uncritically inclusive? Anti-vaxxers etc are very much in that realm of anti-semitic conspiracy theories. I just think that 'we' (and I realise that the idea that 'we' have any control over these things, or even that there is any definable 'we' is a little absurd) have to get on top of this shit somehow.

 

[Pickman's model]

you kinda get the impression with the NHS if you gave it enough money it'd sort its own problems out but that definitely wouldn't happen with the police

Throwing money at cops is just chucking it away

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Throwing money at cops is just chucking it away

And you'd be charged with having an offensive weapon.

 

[Pickman's model]

And you'd be charged with having an offensive weapon.

Or even without having one

 

[kenny g]

Antivax conspiracy loon bollocks is a rabbit hole that is different but akin to SWP shite. Not to be tolerated. An enemy's enemy is not necessarily a friend.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Tents being put up on College Green, 200 folk, more arriving.

Another demo in Brighton Saturday, evening this time.

 

[ddraig]

XR giving it some about "legal protest" and how they have marshals and people trained in de-escalation blah blah
"wasn't us ossifer, we wouldn't do that, oh no not us"

Campaign groups in Bristol speak out after peaceful protest turned violent

"We are in solidarity with Bristol's citizens and other activists in nonviolent protest"

www.bristolpost.co.uk

A prominent Bristol campaign group has said Sunday's riot shows why it is "essential" that peaceful protests are not outlawed.

Extinction Rebellion (XR) Bristol said as there was no specific organiser of the 'Kill the Bill' protest, at least in part due to the threat of a hefty coronavirus fine, no one had responsibility for planning or liaising with police.

A spokesperson for the climate action group said: "An organised protest can have safeguards in place, but Bristol police were warning last week of £10,000 fines for anyone who took an organisational role.

"When XR plans an action we organise stewards and marshals, including stewards trained in de-escalation, plus a reasonable degree of police liaison.

"The escalation of Sunday's peaceful protest demonstrates why it is essential that organised peaceful protest remains legal."

The group reiterated that "the rally belonged to no organisation".

Its statement emphasised XR Bristol's "absolute commitment to non-violence".

 

[keybored]

And to be clear this isn't a case of struggling to find ten to fill out a listicle - there were three biggish ones in 2011 alone, not just Stokes Croft I but also in the wake of Mark Duggan's killing; locally significant ones like Knowle West in 1998 when a police station was besieged over the failure of authorities to keep local communities informed about the location of child killer Sidney Cooke; mini ones like 2013 when police, still smarting from losing various anarchist suspects over stuff tried to close down an impromptu Thatcher's Dead street party; as well as countless others.

And yet institutional amnesia kicks in every time after each one...

1990 Council Tax demo on College Green.

26 people were arrested. Both police and demonstrators were seriously injured. One police officer was kicked unconscious when he tried to make an arrest. Six more were dragged out of their van. PC David Wallis, who had served in Northern Ireland, described the situation as 'worse than Ulster'. From here, activity spread to the rest of England and Wales.

Chapter 4: Riot And Rebellion

libcom.org

 

[DaveCinzano]

1990 Council Tax demo on College Green.

Chapter 4: Riot And Rebellion

libcom.org

 

[JTG]

Tents being put up on College Green, 200 folk, more arriving.

Another demo in Brighton Saturday, evening this time.

I've seen tweets in the last hour from FirstBus saying buses are being diverted around College Green/the Centre. Not sure what's happening but I doubt it's good

Bristol Post live blog reports that the protest is being 'dispersed', timestamped 2210

 

[BristolEcho]

I've seen tweets in the last hour from FirstBus saying buses are being diverted around College Green/the Centre. Not sure what's happening but I doubt it's good

Bristol Post live blog reports that the protest is being 'dispersed', timestamped 2210

Loads of police at the moment.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I've seen tweets in the last hour from FirstBus saying buses are being diverted around College Green/the Centre. Not sure what's happening but I doubt it's good

Bristol Post live blog reports that the protest is being 'dispersed', timestamped 2210

Especially as the First Bus account signed off at 7pm, but has come back with two very detailed urgent redirection messages three hours later.