Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Pretty much sums up my attitude to it
Accused rapist Ched Evans to be released from prison
- Thread starter Bahnhof Strasse
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Pretty much sums up my attitude to it
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Don't be mad. Of course i'm not on their "side"!
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
It's rape if one party is so drunk that they are unable to give consent as has been made perfectly clear on the last couple of pages. To deny that is vile.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
i say you are if you think you shouldn't prosecute conscious people for having sex with unconscious people
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Who says she was unconscious?
in a thread full of fucking stupid posts, this is a new contender for stupidest. take a bow.
People need to make sure they don't let this slide. This was overturned because they allowed testimonies from her past sexual partners. DO NOT LET THIS BE FORGOTTEN. This is really important and is going to stop lots of people coming forward to report rape and sexual assault. I didn't report mine because I felt like I'd be dismissed as a slut.
trashpony
Hag
I feel the same
That twitter screengrab is terrifying. So many men really, really hate women
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I don't disagree with the sentiment of the last 2 posts at all, but I think both might have benefitted from the inclusion of the word "some".
trashpony
Hag
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
<yawn>? Really?
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
It feels like a massive leap backwards. I still can't quite believe it was allowed.
it's fair enough brogdale, you did just do a textbook not all men...
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
A dozen or so arseholes on Facebook are certainly not representative of all men . And it's an insult to everyone's intelligence to suggest it does. There's some very good and important points being made here about the ability of the Evans defence to offer bribes and to have a woman's sexual history introduced , stuff I find pretty disturbing . If your going to derail it with this type of bollocks nobody's even going to bother listening .
she hasn't done that, so it's all good.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
OK, I'll row back a bit and say...perhaps it was the other (previous) post's omission that I was reacting to. I suppose I was suggesting 'some' instead of 'so many'...but that changes your meaning.
I retract. Wasn't trying to give offence.
trashpony
Hag
Oh it's not a dozen. Twitter yesterday was terrifying. For everyone one of those, there are a dozen more. And a dozen more behind them. Caroline Criado-Perez received threats and abuse from nearly 100 different people, including death threats. Her crime? Campaigning to have a woman on a bank note.
There are a lot of men who really, really hate women and stuff like this fuels that hatred.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
so keen on telling a woman to shut up that you didn't bother reading her post.
Did I just mansplain something?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Tbh this is all well explained by bimble's link I have referred to before. The Secret Barrister explains the exceptional circumstances which led to the appeal court deciding the new evidence needed to be tested before a jury.
no.Did I just mansplain something?
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RubyBlue
faded and jaded
I have operated in a total blackout many times and people just haven't realised how totally out of it I am - I come across as a bit pissed and certainly not drunk enough to not give consent when in reality the opposite is true. If, in a blackout she behaves in a similar way to me then Evans could easily think she was a bit pissed but able to consent easily enough.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
The former Solicitor General thinks the decision was wrong. She was the one that got sexual history banned from court in 1999 and says that this case did not meet the threshold she set for it to be brought up.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
God, this thread is almost as depressing as the result itself, tho maybe I should be grateful it's just the usual suspects behaving like scumbags.
That a man can claim he gained consent from a woman he never even spoke to is appalling. That a judge can allow a woman's sexual history to be discussed simply because she may have said 'fuck me harder' is a disgrace. And this will have knock on effects on other cases, sets a horrible precedent to young men (in particular) who are already clueless enough about consent, and why some women sometimes take part in 'risky' behaviour. More rapists will get away with it thanks to this case. And some fuckwits will come on here, and on the radio, and every other bloody place, and demand that we recognise these rapists innocence. Fucking wankers.
That a man can claim he gained consent from a woman he never even spoke to is appalling. That a judge can allow a woman's sexual history to be discussed simply because she may have said 'fuck me harder' is a disgrace. And this will have knock on effects on other cases, sets a horrible precedent to young men (in particular) who are already clueless enough about consent, and why some women sometimes take part in 'risky' behaviour. More rapists will get away with it thanks to this case. And some fuckwits will come on here, and on the radio, and every other bloody place, and demand that we recognise these rapists innocence. Fucking wankers.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
she should then be campaigning for the reform of the ccrc and appeal court.
bimble
floofy
What changes in the law do you think would help? I don't know what happened in that hotel room but if a woman saying 'fuck me harder' is not consent, on the basis that she may have been very drunk, what should be done to make the law protect women better?
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