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Accused rapist Ched Evans to be released from prison

ShakespearO said:
Please can you post a link or direct us to these details you have looked at. The only place I found any details is on the Ched Evans site which, by its nature, is not likely to be impartial or include facts unhelpful to his position.
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Not only that, those responsible for it are also alleged to have broken contempt of court laws.

Ched Evans: Attorney general's office probe into website

This story's a few days old now, but I haven't seen it mentioned here before.
 
andysays said:
Not only that, those responsible for it are also alleged to have broken contempt of court laws.

Ched Evans: Attorney general's office probe into website

This story's a few days old now, but I haven't seen it mentioned here before.
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There's been murmurings about this for a while, good to know they've finally got round to looking in to it. Could result in future FIL getting banged up, which would be, like, well funny.
 
"The bride's father gave her away flanked by two G4 goons. The groom's Licence Conditions unfortunately meant that the Hello photographer was refused admission to the church. In a nice touch, the Chairmen of the Clubs who tried to sign Ched acted as bridegrooms."
 
ViolentPanda said:
Millwall's "nobody likes us and we don't care" doesn't mean the fans would tolerate them signing a rapist.
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Indeed, when forced to endure The New Den for a couple of recent years, I witnessed a certain footballer convicted of assaulting a woman after she rejected his advances in a nightclub, having to endure sarf lunnon's finest chanting, ' she said No, ....on, she said No!' ( to the tune of kumbaya, my lord)
 
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Wilf said:
"The bride's father gave her away flanked by two G4 goons. The groom's Licence Conditions unfortunately meant that the Hello photographer was refused admission to the church. In a nice touch, the Chairmen of the Clubs who tried to sign Ched acted as bridegrooms."
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...........earlier due to failed CRB checks, and the inconvenience of the sex offenders list, the groom had had to leave the room as the page boy presented the rings, the groom was only allowed to return when the page boy had left the building and the area was declared safe.
 
Stick the phrase 'buyers remorse' on your 'phrases of twats' bingo card (alongside 'UK plc', 'productive sections of the economy' and all the rest). I wish I was better at not reading comments under articles.
 
ShakespearO said:
Thanks. It's not very detailed though.
What I would like to see - subject to appropriate anonymisation obviously - would be the defendants' statements to the cops and their testimony (assuming they gave any) in court. If anyone has those it would be great, since they are key to understanding how they explained their actions on the night.
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Statements and other case materials are very difficult to obtain unless you're a party to the proceedings or you're willing to pay the Crown Court for a transcript (and these aren't cheap).

heinous seamus said:
The finest legal mind of his generation, Steve Bruce, has looked closely at the case and decided Ched has a case for appeal :facepalm:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30742947
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A lot of people seem to think that an appeal is some sort of do-over. Unless an error in law was made by the judge or misleading evidence was presented to the jury, there is no basis for an appeal. As others have said, the jury heard the defence case and still convicted Evans.
 
equationgirl said:
I'll admit I was slightly taken aback by one of them as we had half the conversation yesterday and he seemed to be of a similar opinion to me that he should not play.

Argument was along the lines of 'well he's been to prison, why should there be any other consequences?'
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I wonder how many of the the people spouting this crap would be up in arms if they found a school was employing someone with a conviction for dealing cannabis?
 
emanymton said:
I wonder how many of the the people spouting this crap would be up in arms if they found a school was employing someone with a conviction for dealing cannabis?
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If his job involved dealing with kids (no pun intended) he would have been barred by "virtue" of being on the sex offenders register. A clear and understandable distinction. We have goalposts and they seem sensibly placed.



When I first read about this was queasy about basically destroying a mans life coz he had had sex with a women who had had 4 pints, (it is bit messier than that) but remembered today an incident 15-20 years ago, when a mate let someone else I knew kip on the sofa after the pub. He came in her room in the middle of night and raped her. She didn't bother going to the police, no point no chance of conviction in those days,but we ostracized him so much he jumped off a motorway bridge. Didn't kill him, broke his legs and he was still concious when the truck ran him over. I/We had no remorse about that at the time. Even ten years later when I heard him explaining in a pub that he walked with a cane because of a "bike accident" I made the point of correcting him. Amazing what you forget.
 
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Kaka Tim said:
fucking hell - gordan taylor should resign for that shit.
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Agree, how Hillsborough is in any way analogous to this case is beyond me.

Whether Evan's believes he is innocent or at some later date his conviction magically disappears he is in fact a convicted rapist. So it shouldn't surprise Taylor than fans or commercial partners of clubs Evans is linked with don't want a rapist associated with his club. As Evans professional body it's fair enough he should be trying to support him finding a job but shouldn't be commenting on the circumstances of his case.

I also note that despite suggesting he has doubts over Evans conviction his apology doesn't extend to the victim who by suggesting Evans may be innocent implies she is somehow at fault.

How this fool is in a million pound a year job is staggering.
 
http://footylaw.co.uk/2015/01/06/ched-evans-sifting-facts-from-fiction/

Quite a clear look at the legal issues here. Mostly stuff that's been covered although this is an interesting point I don't think has been mentioned:

The range of appropriate sentences for Ched Evans’ offence was between four and eight years; the Appeal Court said. Evans was sentenced to five years – at the lower end of the scale. We don’t know why the trial judge reached this decision, but he had in mind that Evans’ had no future as a footballer, telling him that he had “thrown away the successful career in which you were involved.”
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twentythreedom said:
Lawro on Football Focus described Evans as 'also a victim' in all this :facepalm:
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I would imagine most footballers views on this are coloured by the number of women who see footballers as a dream ticket to an easy life. Such journeys however, don't usually start with falling over drunk in a kebab shop.
 
Over the Christmas period STV Glasgow were playing adverts almost on a constant loop about how if you get caught drunk driving then you may as well kiss your life goodbye, the implication being that if you are caught not only will you have a 20 year criminal record but you will lose your job, your family life will be strained if not broken and if you can get another job it won't be what you were doing before. And you won't be driving. Whilst I've no doubt they overegged the pudding somewhat, it seems odd that there could be greater penalties for being over the limit (excluding causing death whilst driving, obviously) and greater consequences long term than Ched Evans expects there to be for being convicted of rape.
 
binka said:
woman at work today refered to evans as being 'hounded', mind you she also refered to the recent historic sex abuse cases as 'witch hunts'. not sure what it is that makes some people determined to be rape apologists.
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her on thursday 'how do we know she didnt agree to go back to the hotel with both of them for a gang bang' me 'well considering neither of the accused even suggested this was what happened then why would you even think it a possibility?' 'oh well i havent read all the details of the case'. fucking hell.
 
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