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Absolutely the only single GE 2017 results thread.

I woke to my son crying this morning, and thought, 'shit, must be a Tory land-slide'. Seems it was Lily Allen's 'Somewhere only we know' video for the Labour Party that set him off. I can't help thinking that it was disappointment that we didn't get an outright win, cos this is the first election (at the age of 33) that he's really felt passionate about. Glad to say that he was in jubilant mood by the time he left for work :):)

Katherine Chibah for Hertford and Stortford

My son stayed up all night watching the results, then sat his first History A'Level paper at 9am :facepalm:
He and pretty much all his mates have been totally enthused by it all.
Even the ones who are not so drawn to politics normally have been engaging with it - my son has been breaking off convos with me, with a *hand up* :mad: :D to say stuff like 'Hang on, I just have to explain to Frankie how a minority gov works' and it's been their *stoner choice of viewing* for the last few weeks, for both depth AND hilarity. :thumbs:

My daughter, who is 12, keeps asking questions, too. :cool: She gets annoyed when we're talking about stuff she DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ' :mad: :confused: :( ' and I always tell her to ask and to her credit, she has. :) To his, my son has done a way better job of explaining than I've done and he's been really patient about it, too.

She's also spent the last few days reminding me that when Corbyn got selected/elected/elected again :D I gave her some money to spunk at the corner shop - so she's had a fiver off me today, too - result! :D

VOTE CORBYN, FOR BISCUITS AND CRISPS! :cool:

:hmm:
 
My bet (Corbyn to be PM after the election' ) still says 'result pending' on the paddypower website. .
Does that mean I haven't lost my tenner yet? When is it officially over ?
 
I wasn't expecting labour to win at all. I was expecting the tories to, and they have. A coalition with a few irish headbangers wont' stop them from continuing their social pogrom, once they get rid of May.

It'll be harder for them to get their bills through parliament, so it's quite an important change really. It's one of the reasons I like Corbyn as Labour leader - with him I'm reassured that Labour will vote against NHS dismantling, for example, whereas a Blairite Labour, even if it had more seats, would be more likely to vote along with the Cons. Also LibDems will be more likely to lean left now they see it's popular and some Tories will sway slightly less to the right. There have always been a few Tory rebels who vote against them sometimes and they'll feel empowered now.

It's not world changing, but it is an improvement.
 
I've missed most of the post-election coverage - has anyone asked outright asked her "do you feel responsible" yet?

Sort of but as you know she doesn't do answers. Well not in the usual sense.

At least she has piped up a bit though, all the other ministers seem to have gone to ground.
 
Does anyone know if the Salisbury convention applies to a minority Government's manifesto, given they did not achieve a mandate?

Anyone? Wouldn't this be massive if the Lords could piss about with every single bit of legislation they get sent?
 
What's she saying about Corbyn? I saw some things she said about John Hemming (all deserved btw, he's a dick, in case you're not already aware), I also hope she can sort herself out wrt corbyn, I quite liked Jess up to when she joined the no confidence group, which I didn't expect tbh.
Her Ben Okri stuff was weird.

 
Anyone? Wouldn't this be massive if the Lords could piss about with every single bit of legislation they get sent?

I don't fully know the answer, but the Lib Dems took a decision that they were just going to ignore it when Gordon Brown was PM. So I guess maybe it's just up to the parties and individual Lords whether they wish to respect it or not.
 
I've missed most of the post-election coverage - has anyone asked outright asked her "do you feel responsible" yet?

Given that she seems to be in a profound state of denial at the moment I can only assume the answer would be, 'responsible for what?'
 
How the hell can May go to the EU after what's happened and think she can be taken seriously?
The EU26 think the Brits are ridiculous show ponies who are unable to get their act together anyway. She'd blown her credibility once she started to bang on about "no deal being better than a bad deal". It will be worse now of course as a shaky Tory government is dependent on a party that certainly want a deal over the Irish border and her party are quite liable to round on May like a pack of jackals. As I understand it it's Davies who does the A50 negotiating anyway which always made all this guff about the vitalness of a strong PM dubious. Going for a bigger majority supportive of May was more about being able to ram through domestic legislation and quashing dissent. JC has really chucked a spanner in that one.
 
If the account of her previous meeting with Juncker is accurate then she was severely deluded about the strength her negotiating position even before this catastrope of an election. I really don't think she's very bright.

Certainly the deluded thing is coming up time and again. Horribly out of her depth.
 
Our tory mp still in, too many chavs didnt vote, but i didnt cos it's pre-planned

You're complaining that 'chavs' didn't vote (really not on to use that word, Pete, whatever you mean by it) so the Tory MP got back in, but it was OK for you not to vote because it was 'pre-planned'??!!

31% of the electorate didn't vote, and that includes you. Imagine the change if some of those people had voted. Imagine if you had voted - you could have done a postal vote if you were unable to go to the polling station.

Don't blame others for their inaction if you're not prepared to vote either.
 
So, the north east seats were first to declare in a creditable performance which says much for efficiency and work ethic, but Kensington, some 16 hours later, have still not declared. What exactly are they doing in Kensington?

A recount because it's very close. They have to have the same tellers doing each recount so the poor bastards are knackered and can hardly be expected to count accurately until they've had a rest.

I don't find it that surprising that it could go Labour. There's a lot of social housing there and many of the richer residents are foreign nationals with no vote in the general election.
 
How many Tories are gonna have go have pop their clogs to cause enough bye-elections to negate the DUP? 5? 4?
3 makes it tricky, but given SF aren't there, that makes it up to 6.

It was sooo close. Just three fewer tory MPs, and May could not have done what she did today. She was lucky, really, just holding on to a few seats by a few votes.
 
Is the DUP deal going to make a big difference to tory support by the LGBT+ demographic? It has to, surely?
There is enormous scope for mischief here. On this, and abortion rights as well. On the big fat cheques that will be signed for NI development. On the DUP attempting to dictate what kind of brexit happens. This last is the biggie, I think, as it's the thing the DUP cares most about - keeping the border but keeping it open.

There's going to be a lot of focus on the DUP, and it ain't going to look good at all.
 
Is the DUP deal going to make a big difference to tory support by the LGBT+ demographic? It has to, surely?
Stuff like that I figure there must be enough Tory MPs who would rebel on anything truly heinous? I'm pretty sure at least a handful actually have a semi-decent LGBT+ record. Can't provide you with any facts to support that, of course...
 
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