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4 to 5k to spend on an estate car?

Ford Mondeo 2.2 TDCi SIV ST - c.£5k and only 78k.

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Or you could have the full monty (like mine :thumbs:): Ford Mondeo 3.0 V6 ST 220 with all the bits - heated leather seats etc. Very, very quick; bargain at £4250 and only 71k :cool: (Mine's at nearly 96k and never missed a beat).

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Global Stoner, the Skoda Octavia Scout is the 4wd version. It's not going to win any beauty pageants but they're rock solid and tick all of your boxes.

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But buy an Alfa! ;)
 
Also I've probably told you this before, but if we ever actually have proper winters again: winter tyres before 4X4.

A 4x4 might give you two more wheels to spin in a bid to get going, but it doesn't help you one bit when it comes to braking and steering.

Winter tyres are :cool:, like night and day. Just a shame I fitted mine in a year where it's barely dipped below 12 degrees.
 
I was looking at estate cars recently for someone and found a White 2L Mondeo Estate, leather seats, tow bar with 2 connectors and low mileage, for just £3k. It looked really nice. Unfortunately it sold immediately it hit autotrader so we missed out.
 
Global Stoner, the Skoda Octavia Scout is the 4wd version. It's not going to win any beauty pageants but they're rock solid and tick all of your boxes.

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But buy an Alfa! ;)
Jesus christ that's ugly :D

But yeah, if you want to drive it on anything bumpy, those ST Mondeos are probably not for you. The tyres are thin and expensive and ground clearance is minimal. Also fwd 3.0; I go through a lot of front tyres. Also 22mpg in town.
 
I've said this before but I personally wouldn't go diesel at the moment.

Several cities are considering crackdowns on them due to emissions. Even if you never drive in the city yourself it's going to affect your resale value.....
 
Aaaah man. Threads like this make me want to go out and buy another large, fast, barge. Mine is ready to break and i am looking at 'sensible options' :(

Mondeo seems like a good shout, lot of car for reasonable money and will do the miles. I'd always encourage someone to buy a volvo aswell, if they show even the vaguest leanings towards fancying one themselves :thumbs:
 
I've said this before but I personally wouldn't go diesel at the moment.

Several cities are considering crackdowns on them due to emissions. Even if you never drive in the city yourself it's going to affect your resale value.....


This was my argument to Frau Bahn to go for a 4ltr, twin turbo petrol V8...
 
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Ford Mondeo 2.2 TDCi SIV ST - c.£5k and only 78k.

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Or you could have the full monty (like mine :thumbs:): Ford Mondeo 3.0 V6 ST 220 with all the bits - heated leather seats etc. Very, very quick; bargain at £4250 and only 71k :cool: (Mine's at nearly 96k and never missed a beat).

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That does look smart. As big estates go I don't think the 07 Mondeo looks bad.

I'd really like the 2.2 tdi, but there are fewer in my price range of an appropriate milage. Think it does need to desiel sadly as it's just so much more economical
 
I reckon you've got to have a look at Saab as well. 5k buys you a low mileage 2009 twin turbo diesel Aero, and they're fully loaded and really shift. Parts will be around for ages and servicing's reasonable.

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Never driven a Saad, but that does look nice and the price also seems right. Will go on the list.
 
I'd really like the 2.2 tdi, but there are fewer in my price range of an appropriate milage. Think it does need to desiel sadly as it's just so much more economical
Didn't we have this discussion before? What mileage are you doing?

Also like someone else said, don't get hung up on mileage of the car. High mileage probably means low stress motorway plodding. Hell I'd possibly rather have a ten year old car that'd done 500,000 miles than one that'd done 20,000, because it means someone's been doing something right.
 
Global Stoner, the Skoda Octavia Scout is the 4wd version. It's not going to win any beauty pageants but they're rock solid and tick all of your boxes.

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But buy an Alfa! ;)

Also I've probably told you this before, but if we ever actually have proper winters again: winter tyres before 4X4.

A 4x4 might give you two more wheels to spin in a bid to get going, but it doesn't help you one bit when it comes to braking and steering.

Winter tyres are :cool:, like night and day. Just a shame I fitted mine in a year where it's barely dipped below 12 degrees.


I was looking at 4x4s, but given this motor will have to last me a fair while, I think I'd rather have something newer and with less ongoing running costs.

And yest mauvais I have remembered. The last few winters have been brutal, although thankfully this one hasn't been so far.
 
Didn't we have this discussion before? What mileage are you doing?

Also like someone else said, don't get hung up on mileage of the car. High mileage probably means low stress motorway plodding. Hell I'd possibly rather have a ten year old car that'd done 500,000 miles than one that'd done 20,000, because it means someone's been doing something right.

It just seems really counter intuitive, but I get what you're saying.

I probably do about 12k a year, but that's likely to go up this year if I get some work in Wales.
 
It just seems really counter intuitive, but I get what you're saying.

I probably do about 12k a year, but that's likely to go up this year if I get some work in Wales.
12k is the kind of territory where diesel makes sense I think, but only just.

It is counter intuitive but there are a few very good reasons. Cars like being fully used rather than sitting around rotting. They like getting up to temperature instead of quick trips to the shops. They like soaking up constant load instead of stop/start. But doing all that adds miles.

Fundamentally modern engines & transmissions are typically good for at least 250k if looked after, diesels especially, and the rest ain't bad either.

It's economics that kills them off prematurely. We value used cars so poorly that people figure they should get rid of it for something newer that they wanted anyway rather than spending £500 in maintenance on what would still then be a £500 car. If value was better connected to remaining utility, it'd be quite different I think.
 
12k is the kind of territory where diesel makes sense I think, but only just.

It is counter intuitive but there are a few very good reasons. Cars like being fully used rather than sitting around rotting. They like getting up to temperature instead of quick trips to the shops. They like soaking up constant load instead of stop/start. But doing all that adds miles.

Fundamentally modern engines & transmissions are typically good for at least 250k if looked after, diesels especially, and the rest ain't bad either.

It's economics that kills them off prematurely. We value used cars so poorly that people figure they should get rid of it for something newer that they wanted anyway rather than spending £500 in maintenance on what would still then be a £500 car. If value was better connected to remaining utility, it'd be quite different I think.

I've never had a car get close to that. :(

I mean I could keep throwing money at my Belingo (tbf I havn't spent that much on it other then servicing), but I'm loathed to spend more when it feels noticably more clunky to drive then it used. Plus there is no guarantee that after you've spent £500 it won't need another, although I guess the same could be said for something newer. Ah second hand cars are a mindfield.

Tbh there doesn't seem to be a vast difference in prices between diesels and petrols at the kind of motors I'm looking at, so it does make sense to take the 10 to 15 mpg. Fuel is nice and cheap at the moment though, be interesting to see how that will last.

Something like this would be quite nice
 
Never driven a Saad, but that does look nice and the price also seems right. Will go on the list.
I'd never driven a SAAB till about 4 years ago. It's one of the few cars I wish I'd kept. I keep looking and wondering whether to buy another. I remember getting some great attention driving it. Once for example, while in France, a woman stopped to tell me how beautiful it was. It happened about once a week. (It was a 900 convertible in bright yellow.)
 
Never driven a Saad, but that does look nice and the price also seems right. Will go on the list.
I've never owned a Saab but I've driven quite a few and they're extremely capable for day to day driving and the occasional blast, but not sports cars. Since they went skint, prices have gone through the floor so you get a shit-load of car for the money and there's a huge support and parts network still available that will be for years.

You can pick up 2008, 2.0 petrol Aero's for a little over 2 grand which is an absolute bargain for a fully loaded, 145mph, sub 8 sec 0-60 motor.
 
Another question. How true are 0 to 60 speeds when comparing cars? Most of us don't that, but want nice acceleration when overtaking or joining a road. Is the BHP a more useful stat?

TBF almost anything will better then my current car and will drive a whole lot smoother. It cut out the other day when going round a corner. Which meant the power steering also went. Slightly alarming.


Would also work. :)
 
Another question. How true are 0 to 60 speeds when comparing cars? Most of us don't that, but want nice acceleration when overtaking or joining a road. Is the BHP a more useful stat?
0-60 is a reasonable enough way to compare acceleration between cars but that doesn't mean that's what your car will do. They're the best times in perfect conditions and once you've loaded your tools and gear in the back you can forget about what the performance stats say.
 
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