#occupy London....
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shaman75
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What's the thinking behind occupying the Tate?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Hopefully it's connected to the electricians protests at the tate building site...
That would be good. I know Tate have sponsorship deals with some big corporates like Shell (I was at an anti-shell event there in the summer).
I'm just a little concerned that after the original protest has become associated in the public mind with St Pauls rather than the stock exchange this could take the attention away from the original target even more.
I'm just a little concerned that after the original protest has become associated in the public mind with St Pauls rather than the stock exchange this could take the attention away from the original target even more.
Zabo
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A cathedral spokesman said it intended to "engage directly and constructively" with the protesters "without the threat of forcible eviction".
It said the investment banker Ken Costa would head an initiative "reconnecting the financial with the ethical"
From the man himself:
http://godatwork.org.uk/2011/10/31/...-city-should-heed-discordant-voices-st-paul’s
It said the investment banker Ken Costa would head an initiative "reconnecting the financial with the ethical"
From the man himself:
http://godatwork.org.uk/2011/10/31/...-city-should-heed-discordant-voices-st-paul’s
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
I've lost count of the number of times over the past few weeks when establishment speakers, journalists and others have said "everyone supports the right to protest and free speech but....."
The missing bit being "...but not when we don't agree/don't like the look of it/ have to look at tents/hippies all day" etc.
Hypocrites.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Financial backers of St Paul’s Cathedral are dominated by banking interests worth more than £450 billion.
Dialogue? You don't dialogue with these people.
Dialogue? You don't dialogue with these people.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The Church have suspended their involvement in the legal proceedings - whether that means other people or bodies proceeding i don't know.
'http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/nov/01/occupy-london-live-coverage-of-protests-and-reaction'
COL have as well now! least for time being....
COL have as well now! least for time being....
"...only if it's a non-violent A to B affair that attracts little support or attention from the media."
Treacle Toes
Time
I think they are being clever here. The idea of forcibly evicting the camp has caused resignations, presumably because of the potential for violence etc...I think they are trying to get around being the ones seen to be evicting the protesters, whom the media are now referring to as squatters, or the camp as a squat.
If the anti-squatting laws take effect, the church will not have to do a thing. The police will move in on their own say so...
Treacle Toes
Time
Someone from LSX said she was at tate modern this morning and there was only one tent which was removed by police and the owner arrested.
sptme
我打酱油的
Some peeps wanna reclaim the city at the Lord Mayor's Show 12th November,
http://www.reclaimthecity.org/
Anyone know anymore about this?
http://www.reclaimthecity.org/
Anyone know anymore about this?
shaman75
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kavenism
Progressive misanthrope
Perhaps the protestors think J G Ballard's Millennium People was a call to arms rather than the ironic dig directed against middle class rebellion that it is.
stethoscope
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In what respect? People from the occupy movements not being supportive? Or generally?
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
Yup NIMBY
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I do know some grassroots groups who are supporters (indeed still waiting to hearing back from organisers for over a week now to address GA or the Uni thingy, like World Homeless Action Movement and Pilion Trust for example)
love detective
there's no love too small
I went down for a bit today to give it another go/chance - after battling my way past a group of people holding a big cross and chanting about Jesus I met a (the?) representative from the British Racial Democratic Party who had centre stage on the steps in front of the cathedral and was promoting their holy book on racial government while also taking the time to give us their thoughts on the evils of homosexuality
This all went one without anyone saying a thing to the guy or telling him to fuck off - I asked him what he was about but couldn't make sense of anything he said
All in all not a great advert for things (not so much the loonies themselves who are bound to pop up everywhere at these things, but the tolerance of them by the camp itself - i tried to speak to the guy about the homophobia thing but there was no sense being made, so it seems everyone just seemed happy to let him have centre stage and push his homophobic shit)
This all went one without anyone saying a thing to the guy or telling him to fuck off - I asked him what he was about but couldn't make sense of anything he said
All in all not a great advert for things (not so much the loonies themselves who are bound to pop up everywhere at these things, but the tolerance of them by the camp itself - i tried to speak to the guy about the homophobia thing but there was no sense being made, so it seems everyone just seemed happy to let him have centre stage and push his homophobic shit)
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Luther Blissett
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The Coalition Government has set about destroying all the state and local authority services that were originally intended to protect and serve vulnerable people in our society.
The responsibility for providing those services for many decades has been democratically elected SECULAR local and national bodies.
The Coalition Government is dismantling those secular services, and now trying to encourage participation from private organisations – religious or private companies or charitable organisations (what’s left of them) – who aren’t accountable to the people, to take charge and run of these public services.
We all need to remember that our focus is on the very real threats now facing the entire country as our public services are dismantled and privatised.
The responsibility for providing those services for many decades has been democratically elected SECULAR local and national bodies.
The Coalition Government is dismantling those secular services, and now trying to encourage participation from private organisations – religious or private companies or charitable organisations (what’s left of them) – who aren’t accountable to the people, to take charge and run of these public services.
We all need to remember that our focus is on the very real threats now facing the entire country as our public services are dismantled and privatised.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
so people shouldn't try to stop the fash/loons highjacking protests then?
bingiman
Jah Gaza
You couldn't make some of this stuff up. What a great day...
On the down side, bad stuff happened at Parliament Square last night and the Tate Modern thing seems to have been squashed
On the other hand, this church thing is big news, while no fan of organised religion they are a part of this society and therefore of the change we need to make in it. They also own lots of other bits of land of in our beautiful City of London.
Lets just remember the rules of chess, it's not the bishop we are after, it is their queen.
On the down side, bad stuff happened at Parliament Square last night and the Tate Modern thing seems to have been squashed
On the other hand, this church thing is big news, while no fan of organised religion they are a part of this society and therefore of the change we need to make in it. They also own lots of other bits of land of in our beautiful City of London.
Lets just remember the rules of chess, it's not the bishop we are after, it is their queen.
and probably why I am not leading this revolution 
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