"you lying arab"

[bouncer_the_dog]

While watching sleb BB I witnessed 'Hello, Im Rula Lenska' accuse another housemate of being a 'lying arab'. Clearly I am outraged and insulted. But what exactly is the entomological significance of this. And what are the reasons for me being insulted. I am sure somepoeple here can point my ire in the right direction.

 

[Dubversion]

i kinda missed it, but didn't she actually call Faria it?

 

[redsnapper]

Yeah I was a bit surprised to hear her say that too and like you wonder what the origins of such a phrase are..........it was funny tho

 

[DexterTCN]

come on. Play the white man.

 

[editor]

I can remember that phrase being used at school.

 

[King Biscuit Time]

At my school too - although it was usually applied to cheats.

"you cheating arab"

 

[butchersapron]

Yep, that's what we had as well.

 

[mrskp]

i've also heard the phrase "lying jew". i wonder if there's a connection in the origin somewhere.

 

[spanglechick]

barrymore joked to galloway after the "you say we pay" game that rula had said he should've got at least ten. That was her outraged response.

 

[electrogirl]

At my school it was "thieving arab". That wasn't so long ago either.

 

[pianistenvy]

At my school it was "thieving arab". That wasn't so long ago either.

thieving gyppo was the one bandied around at school from what i remember

 

[mk12]

I used to hear, "you dirty arab".

And she didn't direct it at Faria, it was to Michael I think.

 

[Wookey]

It was noted on chez Wookey. Straight-A racist bullshit.

But my other half said to me: You said I was just like an Arab the other day!

I said: In what context? I'd never say 'You lying Arab'.

And he said: It was when I got that Xmas prezzie for me mum, and I got a fiver knocked off...

And I said: Well then, that's culturally true. You barter like an Arab. It's not something white lads from Sunderland usually do. Hence the comparison...

Bit different from typifying Arabs as lying - and just as wrong as saying 'Thieving Gypo' or 'Thick-arse bog-stomper' or any other reflexive stereotype by race, imho.

 

[pianistenvy]

And she didn't direct it at Faria, it was to Michael I think.

seems a somewhat random comment to make on telly.

 

[Wookey]

And she didn't direct it at Faria, it was to Michael I think.

It was to Michael - she hugged Fariah straight after when she realised what she'd said and in front of whom she'd said it..

I thought George was racist earlier on, when he said 'We've all made allowances for that man's (Dennis) rude, sexually predatory ways, allowances we'd never make for a white man.'

I'm like, can you be any more patronising!? I'd be furious if he insinuated that I made allowances for someone's rudeness because of their colour/race.

 

[pianistenvy]

It was to Michael - she hugged Fariah straight after when she realised what she'd said and in front of whom she'd said it..

I thought George was racist earlier on, when he said 'We've all made allowances for that man's (Dennis) rude, sexually predatory ways, allowances we'd never make for a white man.'

I'm like, can you be any more patronising!? I'd be furious if he insinuated that I made allowances for someone's rudeness because of their colour/race.

it's all getting a bit weird on CBB now. excuse the ignorant question, but is faria alam of arabic descent, then? i only ask as my dad's sri lankan and i used to get called a paki every now n then at school, but it didn't really bother me as technically i wasn't, and couldn't be arsed with anyone who made the assumption...

 

[Wookey]

is faria alam of arabic descent, then?

She's about an 8th Iranian - but she describes herself as Persian, perhaps because it sounds more romantic.

So technically, I don't think she is an Arab, no.

 

[pianistenvy]

So technically, I don't think she is an Arab, no.

so Rula, technically, should have hugged everyone in the room to make up for her lame-ass comment!

 

[Flashman]

She said, and I quote, "I'm half P*ki half Bangladeshi", quite early on in the show.

 

[trashpony]

She was born in Bangladesh AFAIK.

 

[laptop]

what exactly is the entomological significance of this?

Something to do with Arab Beetles?

 

[mrskp]

She said, and I quote, "I'm half P*ki half Bangladeshi", quite early on in the show.

but that's ok cos she said it about herself i suppose.

 

[Flashman]

but that's ok cos she said it about herself i suppose.

It's precisely that reason, yes.

 

[Wookey]

Race is so fucking complex. Why everyone can't just be Irish I'll never know.

 

[888]

Something to do with Arab Beetles?

You lying scarab!

(I hate people who call themselves "persian" - they're either pretentious or pro-shah (most likely both))

 

[mrskp]

It's precisely that reason, yes.

ah, that's alright then.

 

[D'wards]

I thought George was racist earlier on, when he said 'We've all made allowances for that man's (Dennis) rude, sexually predatory ways, allowances we'd never make for a white man.'

I'm like, can you be any more patronising!? I'd be furious if he insinuated that I made allowances for someone's rudeness because of their colour/race.

This is quite an interesting point - if someone is acting like a negative racial stereotype, do we make allowances for them without thinking of it?
I think we do - same with any type in society - Rula will probably get away with the Arab comment cos she is an older lady, somewhat out of touch maybe (just look at her hair, fercrissakes).

If Maggot of Chantelle or Preston said that some of the Grockles on this board would hit the facking roof doubly so.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

I remember (possibly the last usages of mind you) the phrase 'your like a wandering Jew' to children who wandered from room to room and wouldn't settle.

 

[Harold Hill]

It was to Michael - she hugged Fariah straight after when she realised what she'd said and in front of whom she'd said it..

I thought George was racist earlier on, when he said 'We've all made allowances for that man's (Dennis) rude, sexually predatory ways, allowances we'd never make for a white man.'

I'm like, can you be any more patronising!? I'd be furious if he insinuated that I made allowances for someone's rudeness because of their colour/race.

I don't think its unreasonable to think people would - many people would in that context because of PC paranoia. Stupid to admit you do though. I think most people just wanted a quiet life.

 

[Fong]

You lying scarab!

I liked that.