You what?
X Factor 2009!
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I said farmer john "Does s/he need you to hold their hand so publically? Do youlike country life?"
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
...beautiful black curly hair...slight disability...
Well stats fans (are there any, perhaps it's just me?), here's the phone vote percentages from the whole series.
http://xfactor.itv.com/_uploads/documents/091213_votestats.pdf
Danyl's vote was all over the place - massively out in front in the first week, taking over a quarter of the total vote, then plummetting for two weeks (bottom two in the third week) and then bouncing right back up to take over a third of the vote in week four.
Joe's vote only really gathered pace in the last four weeks, and suddenly went from middling to being leagues ahead of the rest.
Olly was lucky to get into the final two - he's the only person to have survived the bottom two with the lowest share of the vote (vs. Jedward).
http://xfactor.itv.com/_uploads/documents/091213_votestats.pdf
Danyl's vote was all over the place - massively out in front in the first week, taking over a quarter of the total vote, then plummetting for two weeks (bottom two in the third week) and then bouncing right back up to take over a third of the vote in week four.
Joe's vote only really gathered pace in the last four weeks, and suddenly went from middling to being leagues ahead of the rest.
Olly was lucky to get into the final two - he's the only person to have survived the bottom two with the lowest share of the vote (vs. Jedward).
Looby
Well-Known Member
It's one of the biggest rated entertainment shows with a huge, young audience so of course artists are going to want to go on them whether they think they're a load of old toss or not. It's not all about money either. People like Paul McCartney have huge egos and they want their records to sell and for people to love them because that's who they are and fame and sucess is what defines them. There's no point making a record if no-one buys it, or writing a book that no-one reads.
Britney used it for her UK comeback, so did Whitney. Mariah, Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Michael Buble, Robbie, George Michael. Some are current and hugely successful, some are making a comeback but they all recognise that X Factor is going to give them massive exposure. Whitney and Britney both showed that's not always a good thing but worth the risk I reckon.
What else is there now? No Top of the Pops, no other big 'appointment' tv shows, Strictly probably can't afford them. The only other options they have are things like the Brits and the Royal Variety show and both of those are a joke now too.
Britney used it for her UK comeback, so did Whitney. Mariah, Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Michael Buble, Robbie, George Michael. Some are current and hugely successful, some are making a comeback but they all recognise that X Factor is going to give them massive exposure. Whitney and Britney both showed that's not always a good thing but worth the risk I reckon.
What else is there now? No Top of the Pops, no other big 'appointment' tv shows, Strictly probably can't afford them. The only other options they have are things like the Brits and the Royal Variety show and both of those are a joke now too.
madzone
Physically unfavourable
nothing would surprise me now , this Cowell geezers getting a little too powerful in all walks of music and my ears are hurting . I really cannot understand why musicians like Macca get involved in this tosh its not as though he needs the dosh.
Mentor not mentour
Good post. But the "stars" actually pay the X Factor to be on there apparantly, like you say so much exposure, it's worth it.
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
It was a poor poor final and everyone knew it.
The three finalists were a shadow of past winners, and Joe was picked the winner the day they chose the single, undoubtable because of his ease a which he could be manufactured. Olly was by far the better singer, as was Stacey, but they both unfairly lost public votes by the bucketload every time they opened their mouth. Whilst Stacey was a genuinely loveable blinded-by-the-lights girl, in Olly's case he came across as a cross between Jeff Brazier and George Dawes. Not a good look for the public. Quite why one of the zillions of XF backstage style/image/coaching guru's hadn't got to them sufficiently enough to tailor their spoken side of things I don't know. Paranoid that I fear nothing on that show is left to chance, I can only assume it was deliberate.
I think Simon made a massive mistake by painting Danyl as 'arrogant'. Maybe to prevent a Ray Quin DoI '08 debacle (in that he was simply too good and the contest was null and void from the first microphone switch of his audition) OR that they thought he might be a bit of a Will Young and showed a touch too much intelligence that would lead to a maverick streak and break out of the malleable XF winner ideal. This is the real shame of the whole series and probably the largest reality tv show 'scandal' of recent years
Of all the people involved in the show, I hope it's Danyl who will endure, though looking at his usage in the work post his eviction, I fear they may be doing a 'Old Firm' and keeping him in contract, on the subs bench, so that no one else can use him.
The three finalists were a shadow of past winners, and Joe was picked the winner the day they chose the single, undoubtable because of his ease a which he could be manufactured. Olly was by far the better singer, as was Stacey, but they both unfairly lost public votes by the bucketload every time they opened their mouth. Whilst Stacey was a genuinely loveable blinded-by-the-lights girl, in Olly's case he came across as a cross between Jeff Brazier and George Dawes. Not a good look for the public. Quite why one of the zillions of XF backstage style/image/coaching guru's hadn't got to them sufficiently enough to tailor their spoken side of things I don't know. Paranoid that I fear nothing on that show is left to chance, I can only assume it was deliberate.
I think Simon made a massive mistake by painting Danyl as 'arrogant'. Maybe to prevent a Ray Quin DoI '08 debacle (in that he was simply too good and the contest was null and void from the first microphone switch of his audition) OR that they thought he might be a bit of a Will Young and showed a touch too much intelligence that would lead to a maverick streak and break out of the malleable XF winner ideal. This is the real shame of the whole series and probably the largest reality tv show 'scandal' of recent years
Of all the people involved in the show, I hope it's Danyl who will endure, though looking at his usage in the work post his eviction, I fear they may be doing a 'Old Firm' and keeping him in contract, on the subs bench, so that no one else can use him.
Hellsbells
World's best procrastinator
In response to the above post:
How can anyone possibly say that Olly was 'by far the better singer'?!?
His version of that awful Climb song was attrocious.
And as for Danyl being 'too good' - totally bemused by that aswell. I thought he was AWFUL. His singing voice was SO affected and shouty. I'd turn the radio off if i ever heard his irritating voice
andy2002
To the Bat-poles!
Didn't really get into this year and thought the final three were disappointing - I thought Olly was great at his audition but he seemed to lose that certain something along the way. Joe's got a better voice than Shayne Ward and Leon Jackson but I can't see him having the same kind of success as Leona Lewis, Alexandra Burke or even JLS. He seems like a nice fella though, so good luck to him.
Weller
So ermm ... You know ermm
Thanks for that will you send me a lolipop (sic) or give me one of those cards with a gold star on if I can be bothered to go back and correct it
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
In response to the above post:
How can anyone possibly say that Olly was 'by far the better singer'?!?
His version of that awful Climb song was attrocious.
And as for Danyl being 'too good' - totally bemused by that aswell. I thought he was AWFUL. His singing voice was SO affected and shouty. I'd turn the radio off if i ever heard his irritating voice
I like my pop star voices to have a smidgeon of character, not merely a perfect everyman recital of a set of words.
Joe hit's every note as well as you could want, but as for finidng passion or individuality in his voice? No chance.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
QFT
I listened to the start of every Joe performance and would think technically flawless... Then get bored and fast forward to the end.
Whatever the x-factor is that makes you go "wow what performance" is missing when Joe sings. Intelectually you know it's good, emotionally it's devoid of substence.
Hellsbells
World's best procrastinator
well, yes i agree with this, but Ollie's voice didn't exactly have individiuality or character. It was just bad. As was his dodgy dad style dancing.
Anyway, how many winners of the xfactor have ever had individual, passionate, character-full voices?
Gromit
International Man of Misery
The very first winner. But he refused to sign with Simon cause he didn't want to sing covers.
Bit of a mistake as no one remembers him now.
Hellsbells
World's best procrastinator
the first winner of xfactor? Who on earth was that? Or are you talking about Will Young?
Weller
So ermm ... You know ermm
I thought Steve Brookstein the original winner was pretty decent but we know what happened there for daring to insist on releasing an album of individual self penned album rather than a 2nd album of cover songs he seems to be happy still though although not as rich as he may have been without his falling out .
But he had already been touring the pub circuit as well as a session singer for 15 years and Im sure many semi pros are selected from agencies to turn up at auditions
Hellsbells
World's best procrastinator
Steve Brookstein?!?!?! Are you serious!!!????
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
Will Young (though technically not a winner), and, to a lesser extent, Leona Lewis.
Olly's dancing was atrocious. Not only was it the most ridiculous attempt at using basic moves to look complicated, but used in the most inappropriate songs. Peter Crouch himself has more skill and a a broader routine
Hellsbells
World's best procrastinator
btw, am i the only one who thought Leona Lewis was awful last night? That song was just all wrong for her - she can't sing in that low register atall. It sounded so dodgy and off key.
andy2002
To the Bat-poles!
Are you actually saying Ray Quinn was 'too good'? He was one of the cheesiest and most irritating contestants they've ever had on the show – he made Chico look like Ian Curtis.
Thank fuck Leona trounced him in the final.
Weller
So ermm ... You know ermm
I like song writers and I like soulful singers yes , I will admit to liking Steve Brookstein doing his own material as much as I like Arcade Fire and Jetro Tull , The Clash , Two Tone . I dont shy away from admitting I like all sorts of stuff .
A bit bias I suppose as I had seen him in pubs for years before Xfactor doing his own material a reason why he refused Cowells offer of another 2nd album of soul covers , he had some very good songs he wanted to release after his original record company went bust before releasing his album , he also supported Dionee warwick and turned down supporting Lionel Richie at Wembly to do the Xfactor and then got shat upon by Cowell in my opinion. .
I was quite a fan when he won the Johnathon Ross Big Talent show a few years before the Xfactor and it was probably the only reason I stated watching the first series of Xfactor , I actually thought that a 30 + year old singer song writer might actually be able to release the stuff he'd had and wrote for years with the financial backing of a million pound contract , Cowell refused to let him do that and dumped him with an offer of £12,000 12 weeks after his first album hit number 1 because he refused to do another album of cheesy covers.
I appreciate you may not have the same tastes but it shouldnt be such a shock that people liked him he still holds the record for most amount of votes cast In one show as far as I am aware.
He never once suckered up to the panel or Cowell but that was his downfall in the end as most will remember how very angry Osbourne got towards him in the final calling him false and full of "crap" "B.S" live on air , goading him into losing his temper on air . probanly a put up jon by Cowell in an attempt I believe to push G4 into the lead he knew Steve had an album of original penned songs he wanted to release after the first album if he won .
Hes much more raw and can do a very good Steve Marriot style believe it or not when in pubs and singing the right songs , very very different to the stuff Cowell gave him and Marriotts my all time fav singer , Steve Brookstein is a pretty good song writer as well mind , has been since he was 20 and penned / produced a few albums for others its only the show that makes people believe they come from nowhere
Osbournes nasty onslaught imo in the final , he did good to hold his cool
Him on J.Ross in 97ish before xfactor still the tame TV stuff though and nothing like his pub stuff.
have agree with the post about Will Young being individual , I thought his singing style at the time was very different snd you can hear some of his style has rubbed off onto others from all genres .
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
I was talkign about his appearance on Dancing On Ice (I actually forgot he was on XF
) - as a former semi-pro speed skater or something, it was clear from his 4.5/5 average on the first show of the series he was going to be the favourite against a backdrop of 1's and 2's for the rest of the contestants It was a joke (as any sort of competition)...From the third week onwards The little shit only missed out on perfect scores when his partner fucked up
I was comparing 'that' to Danyl's "With a little help from my friends"
DRINK?
bummed by karmachameleon
Basically Joe is another Gareth Gates but this time without even a stutter to distinguish him. He'd better get interesting real quick otherwise the tabloids will get bored and without them he's f*cked. If the records don't sell he might have to marry Preston (or Subo).
