Wristwatches, watches and watch-like gadgets

[Winot]

ringo I don't know anything about Omega but it might be worth keeping an eye on the Austin Kaye website as their prices are usually pretty fair and they are nice to do business with.

Products List | Austin Kaye

Another option in London - Pre-owned, Unworn and Vintage Rolex, Patek, Cartier, Audemars Piguet AP | Buy & Sell Watches Online

 

[ringo]

ringo I don't know anything about Omega but it might be worth keeping an eye on the Austin Kaye website as their prices are usually pretty fair and they are nice to do business with.

Products List | Austin Kaye

Another option in London - Pre-owned, Unworn and Vintage Rolex, Patek, Cartier, Audemars Piguet AP | Buy & Sell Watches Online

Cheers, I'll have a look. And scan about the website, I don't want to spend a couple of grand and then decide I like something else more.

 

[Orang Utan]

People on here will probably be interested in this, you nutters:
Still ticking: The improbable survival of the luxury watch business | Simon Garfield

 

[ringo]

People on here will probably be interested in this, you nutters:
Still ticking: The improbable survival of the luxury watch business | Simon Garfield

Quite interesting, almost put me off tbh, but then I thought balls to it, I've wanted one for years, its not much different in price to some other expensive bits of technology and instead of lasting a handful of years before becoming redundant and worthless it would, if I wanted, be something I wore, used and enjoyed every day for the rest of my life

 

[Virtual Blue]

Is this the one you just damaged? Hope it gets fixed up.
Been after an Omega chronograph for some time, and changes of circumstances mean I have a bit of cash and am in need of treating myself to something nice.
I like the Speedmaster Pro Moonwatch like yours, but also quite like the date version and the other one which seems to combine the black face, chrono and date, though perhaps not quite so stylish/classic in design - the Seamaster 300m Model 2594.52.00

I've done a bit of Googling as there seems to be debate about changes in movements over time, the buy out by Swatch, the parts issue you mention above, other stuff which as a non-watch geek doesn't mean much to me. Any ideas if there are models to look out for/avoid? I like the idea of an automatic, is that heresy?
Am I right in guessing that places like Watchfinder & Co. - The Pre-Owned Watch Specialist are top prices and they might be found cheaper elsewhere? Would like to pay less but don't want a fake.

#fuckthefuckingloftconversion

Here's my Speedy in it's current state.

Glassless and a scratch next to the Omega logo, plus the chrono-hand is misaligned near 2.
Sad times. My mate has found a repairer for £250. Not bad but I'm a tad skint after buying a washing machine and other boring shit like a bed, mattress, car/ house insurance...

no worries, i get your pain about the loft conversion.
sometimes, we need to make sacrifices to all sensible stuff.

Yes, it's a Speedy Moon Watch, number 3570.00.
It's the watch purists choice. Hand wound. Hesalite crystal. Not (much) water resistance and no date.
Do you want that in a watch?

For me, I'd never sell mine.
The Speedy Pro is the blueprint for all modern Omegas (similar to what the Explorer I is to all modern Rolexes).
It's iconic whereas the other Omegas you posted are just ordinary chronographs (Seamaster and Speed Date and they tend to be forgotten in a few years time.

The Speedy Pro is Omega's modern classic
Never used Watchfinder.

Chronomaster are good.
It's worth your while keeping an eye out on Ebay.
I'm somewhat a geek when it comes to Speedies and can spot fakes.

Annoyingly, they have shot up in price (crap £ and their recent reissue).

 

[ringo]

I've had a look round, worked out the 3570 bit - replaced in 2014 by the 311. I'm pretty sure I like this one best, and its iconic status does count for a bit, it's the classic design and retains its value. I like the date but it clutters the face a bit and I have that on my mobile anyway. Does water resistant to 50m mean that you can go swimming with it on? I don't take my Seiko off to swim and don't like the idea of leaving it lying around while I do.

I owe myself a present and I think I've pretty much convinced myself.

 

[ringo]

Current Seiko:

 

[Winot]

Have a look on Chrono24 too:

Omega Speedmaster Handaufzug Ref: 3570.5000 von 2006


Ref. No. ST 3570.5000; Steel; Manual winding; Condition 2 (fine); Year 2006; With box; Location: Germany, Norderstedt; Omega bracelet with fold-over clasp in 16.5 cm length ( measured without clock ) . bezel is fixed...


£2,552


View offer on Chrono24

 

[Virtual Blue]

Current Seiko:
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I had a Sportura.
Gutted I sold it. Best beater I had.

 

[Virtual Blue]

Have a look on Chrono24 too:

Omega Speedmaster Handaufzug Ref: 3570.5000 von 2006


Ref. No. ST 3570.5000; Steel; Manual winding; Condition 2 (fine); Year 2006; With box; Location: Germany, Norderstedt; Omega bracelet with fold-over clasp in 16.5 cm length ( measured without clock ) . bezel is fixed...


£2,552


View offer on Chrono24

That's alot of cash for a 3570.
Crappy value of the ££

 

[Virtual Blue]

I've had a look round, worked out the 3570 bit - replaced in 2014 by the 311. I'm pretty sure I like this one best, and its iconic status does count for a bit, it's the classic design and retains its value. I like the date but it clutters the face a bit and I have that on my mobile anyway. Does water resistant to 50m mean that you can go swimming with it on? I don't take my Seiko off to swim and don't like the idea of leaving it lying around while I do.

I owe myself a present and I think I've pretty much convinced myself.

Think they phased out the 3570 by late 2015 - not seen them in the shop window since.
One of the benefits of the Speedy Pro is that it looks good in any bracelet/ strap. I have about 5 different types of straps for mine and it's like having many watches.

50m means it's splash proof.
A friend of mine wears his in the sea (swimming not diving) and it's okay.
I just wouldn't chance it.
Don't want to accidentally knock the pusher... that would just kill me.

As for swimming, do you swim alot or just on holidays?

Prices are real unpredictable atm.
I just find it odd paying more than £1.8K for a watch that hasn't changed much since the 60s.

Also, I don't want to put you off but servicing any luxury watch costs big money.
And chronographs because of it's 3 separate movements costs approximately 3 times as much.

Speedies should be serviced every 5 years.

 

[Fez909]

Put my cheapo Rodina in the wash by mistake yesterday

Still works

 

[Mr Retro]

Also, I don't want to put you off but servicing any luxury watch costs big money.
And chronographs because of it's 3 separate movements costs approximately 3 times as much.

Speedies should be serviced every 5 years.

£300 recently for my Tag Carrera. After only 3 years. Lot of money.

 

[craigxcraig]

Anyone know much about Bremont?

I've one of their watches, it's lovely to look at and I really like it - had it about four or so yeas now. Its now due a service (thanks for the link upthread, i think im going to contact them) In that time the leather strap has worn through, the kevlar one I replace it with has also worn through - I'm now using a cheap fossil leather and so far so good. Whilst I live the watch their accessories are shite!

Also have a mil issue cwc (to me) which I love but recently cracked the glass - it's off to silvermans - they offer a really good price for servicing/fixing.

Some lovely watches non this thread

 

[ringo]

That's alot of cash for a 3570.
Crappy value of the ££

I'm seeing £2500 as about the average price at the moment. Is that a recent hike? Are they going to go back down again now that they're discontinued and there is a finite number of them? Maybe not, but then I don't know anything about watch prices.
3570.50

 

[Virtual Blue]

I'm seeing £2500 as about the average price at the moment. Is that a recent hike? Are they going to go back down again now that they're discontinued and there is a finite number of them? Maybe not, but then I don't know anything about watch prices.
3570.50

That's a massive price hike.

I bought mine in 2014 for about a £1.5/1.6K - can't remember except that was the going rate for a 2013 piece (Speedy Pro use to cost the same price as the Seamaster Pro, at £2.8K new).

chrono24 or fleabay are great reference points for prices.
You need to be patient.

I'm on a couple of UK based watch forums where sellers exchange/ sell (TZ Forum).
If you're on FB, request to join Watch Zone - they sometimes have nice pieces there (only chrono they have atm is the Tudor Prince).

 

[ringo]

That's a massive price hike.

I bought mine in 2014 for about a £1.5/1.6K - can't remember except that was the going rate for a 2013 piece (Speedy Pro use to cost the same price as the Seamaster Pro, at £2.8K new).

chrono24 or fleabay are great reference points for prices.
You need to be patient.

Just checked both, £2500 is pretty much the minimum. They seem to have shot up in price, which is surprising considering how many there are for sale.

 

[Virtual Blue]

Just checked both, £2500 is pretty much the minimum. They seem to have shot up in price, which is surprising considering how many there are for sale.

as much as I love my speedy pro, i don't think i'd ever pay £2.5K for one (unless it was grey market new).

have you seen this?
this one is very cultish among speedy fans.
they go for £1,800-2,000.

 

[ringo]

I'll think about it over the weekend, but generally once I've decided its just a matter of time.

I don't like the colours of that one at all, and I'm really leaning towards the uncluttered look of the Moonwatch over the date version.

 

[Fez909]

as much as I love my speedy pro, i don't think i'd ever pay £2.5K for one (unless it was grey market new).

have you seen this?
this one is very cultish among speedy fans.
they go for £1,800-2,000.

That's really nice

Oh and....

Man’s luxury watch successfully impresses fellow twats

 

[Virtual Blue]

I'll think about it over the weekend, but generally once I've decided its just a matter of time.

I don't like the colours of that one at all, and I'm really leaning towards the uncluttered look of the Moonwatch over the date version.

Just take your time in finding the right one.
There are a shit load of Speedies out there...and while hunting, you can see if it's for you.

Also suggest you wear it in the Jewellers first - they tend to wear quite big.

 

[ringo]

I tried a Moonwatch on in the Duty Free at Gatwick, and was surprised to find that I didn't like it as much as I thought I would. It seemed much smaller than I thought it would be too, the same size as my current Seiko.

I may have to go back to my original idea of a chrono with date, automatic, possibly a blue face, and slightly larger. Some sort of Seamaster or Planet Ocean maybe.

I only want to buy one more watch to wear for the rest of my life, and I have a bit of money my Dad left me so it will be partly in remembrance of him, so I'll take my time and try and get it right.

 

[Virtual Blue]

How big are your wrists ringo?
The moonwatch is a well proportioned at 42mm and the most comfortable watch I own.
What is it the depth or the width that you found too small?

Face on, the Planet Ocean (8500 movement) is the same size as the Moon watch.
Difference is the thickness - I found them monstrous.
The Seamaster chrono is quite hefty too.

I have a soft spot for this and they can be picked up at a very good price in the used markets.

 

[ringo]

I may have to go back to my original idea of a chrono with date, automatic, possibly a blue face, and slightly larger. Some sort of Seamaster or Planet Ocean maybe.

I like the Planet Oceans but only because they're slightly larger and I couldn't justify and don't have an extra 3 grand just for a bigger watch. Looking at the Seamaster Chrono Diver now, the model previous to this one has a wave pattern on the dial in the style of old machined enamel boxes that I like.

 

[Chz]

Somewhat off-topic, but I'd damaged my watch a few years back by dropping it on a tiled floor. Two very large dents in the case that would impossible to buff out. I reckoned it was unrepairable and a lesson learned.

But thank heavens for modern technology. That newfangled laser welding stuff filled it in such that the damage had never happened and cost me a whopping 50 quid.

 

[Brainaddict]

I bought a Seiko 5 sports (mini monster) because I was sick of having cheap watches that break. Well it doesn't break, but it doesn't keep time very well - loses a couple of minutes a week, which can make you late for things if you don't think to reset it for a couple of weeks. I got the watch adjusted once, but was told that since I cycle the vibration means it would go out of sync again, and it has. So it's a bit disappointing. I'm wondering what I would have to get to get a watch that keeps time accurately, cycling or no. Would it have to be one of those radio-adjusted ones, or are there others that keep time better and aren't bothered by vibration?

 

[Virtual Blue]

I bought a Seiko 5 sports (mini monster) because I was sick of having cheap watches that break. Well it doesn't break, but it doesn't keep time very well - loses a couple of minutes a week, which can make you late for things if you don't think to reset it for a couple of weeks. I got the watch adjusted once, but was told that since I cycle the vibration means it would go out of sync again, and it has. So it's a bit disappointing. I'm wondering what I would have to get to get a watch that keeps time accurately, cycling or no. Would it have to be one of those radio-adjusted ones, or are there others that keep time better and aren't bothered by vibration?

Seiko 5s (commonly) have the 7s26 movement and it's known for gaining/ losing time (mine use to gain 25 seconds per day).
Those movements are built like tanks, downside is that they are quite crap for accurate time keeping.
You're a road cyclist right? If so, that shouldn't shock the mechanism/ balance wheel at all.
Mountain biking/ BMX-ing - that's a different story.

Get a G Shock - GW5610 if you want a hard as nails watch that's reliable and accurate.

 

[High Voltage]

On a bit of a spur of the moment I've plunged for a never been issued, 1989 CWC G10

Like this, but the strap's different - and for a coming up to 30 year old watch it's perfect, the only "fault" if you'd call it that, is the luminosity has pretty much gone, I think you can get them re-painted in a modern equivalent, but it's probably not worth the expense

 

[Virtual Blue]

I like the Planet Oceans but only because they're slightly larger and I couldn't justify and don't have an extra 3 grand just for a bigger watch. Looking at the Seamaster Chrono Diver now, the model previous to this one has a wave pattern on the dial in the style of old machined enamel boxes that I like.
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I saw one of those going for £1800 on a UK based watch Forum (earlier this year).

 

[Chz]

Seiko 5s (commonly) have the 7s26 movement and it's known for gaining/ losing time (mine use to gain 25 seconds per day).
Those movements are built like tanks, downside is that they are quite crap for accurate time keeping.
You're a road cyclist right? If so, that shouldn't shock the mechanism/ balance wheel at all.
Mountain biking/ BMX-ing - that's a different story.

Get a G Shock - GW5610 if you want a hard as nails watch that's reliable and accurate.

You want to keep accurate time, buy something quartz. Let's face it, mechanical watches are jewellery.

And I have a Seiko 5. Love it. Happy to adjust it once or twice a week.