If you follow the link in my o/p, it sets out how the WfD schemes are going to work in practice.You cant have a new claim for incapacity benefit anymore I dont think. Any new claims for sickness benefits are assessed under the ESA rules. There are still people claiming incapacity benefit but all those claims started before the new rules are introduced.
Does anyone know how there pilots will work for incapacity benefit ? Im moving to Manchester soon but may have to reconsider if I would have to do something like this because my health is just not upto it.
No worries. To be considered for a WfD scheme, you need to have already done a full Flexible New Deal programme - so if you were considering moving to Manchester, you might have some breathing space before they tried to rope you into one of these....otoh, with the way things are going, it won't matter where you live soon or what issues may hinder you from working, they're going to expect ever more activity regardless it seems.Thanks paulie.
The logic within DWP is that if 'a jobseeker' has signed on for a year with JCP and not got a job, and then done a year on Flexible New Deal with a private contractor and still not got a job, then they're clearly not really trying hard enough, so they need to force these people to work for their £60 a week, and they'll then realise how simple and straightforward it is to have a job and so they'll sign off and get a real 'job'. Easy.....Basically the problem with this is the initial premise (I can't cut and paste from the link) that says the idea is to see if it "helps long term unemployed back into work". What work? The job centres cannot help anyone into work when there is none available!
It's like some parallel universe!
And, obv, forcing sick people not just into claiming the wrong benefit but "work" in order to get it -- or like Blagsta said, simply being cut off when they can't do it.
wtf
worries me
It doesn't - independent research suggests that WfD schemes can be very expensive to administer, they can actually inhibit people from actively looking for work, and are a very blunt-edged approach to a very multi-faceted problem.I fail to see how any of this creates a single extra job....
It doesn't. It just siphons lots of public funds into private companies shareholders' hands.I fail to see how any of this creates a single extra job....
Would you be able to transfer your existing incapacity benefit claim? Or would they say that moving to a new area means that you have to close your old claim and submit a new claim for ESA?You cant have a new claim for incapacity benefit anymore I dont think. Any new claims for sickness benefits are assessed under the ESA rules. There are still people claiming incapacity benefit but all those claims started before the new rules are introduced.
Does anyone know how there pilots will work for incapacity benefit ? Im moving to Manchester soon but may have to reconsider if I would have to do something like this because my health is just not upto it.
