What's the oldest film that would be rated 18 if released today?

[bimble]

What's illegal? Bugsy Malone is a PG

You think that film could have been made now ? No fucking way. Jodie Foster doing Talulah aged what, looks about 14?

 

[Orang Utan]

You think that film could have been made now ? No fucking way. Jodie Foster doing Talulah aged what, looks about 14?

Of course. They're all kids in the film

 

[andysays]

Um thats the wrong Reckless. Unless Darryl Hannah and Aidan Quinn were working in 1935.

If you don't like that one then the next oldest is Dreams Come True, originally given an A cert in 1936, later awarded an 18 in 1986

 

[bimble]

Of course. They're all kids in the film

Ye i know. What would today's version of Bugsy look like? It would not have Tallulah in it.

 

[Santino]

Bugsy would be struggling with morphine addiction.

 

[Fez909]

Mario Bava's Blood and Black Lace from 1964 is currently an 18. (Last classified 2015)

Nice find. Have you seen it? Worthy of an 18?

It got re-classified from a 15 to an 18 in 2000 so it must be pretty violent, seeing as violence is the only thing listed in the BBFC notes.

 

[bimble]

Bugsy would never have been born

 

[Lurdan]

Herschell Gordon Lewis's Blood Feast from 1963 is still an 18 (Uncut version last classified in 2005).

 

[Lurdan]

Nice find. Have you seen it? Worthy of an 18?

It got re-classified from a 15 to an 18 in 2000 so it must be pretty violent, seeing as violence is the only thing listed in the BBFC notes.

Yeah I've seen it - it's a proto-Giallo (or Italian slasher). The version passed 15 would have been very, very heavily cut. As a 60's 'monster kid' horror film fan I'm probably not the person to ask whether things are 18 worthy It's a well made exploitation thriller - the 18 will be related to the sexualised violence.

It's not in the category of disturbing films occupied by Pasolini's Salo for example.

 

[Fez909]

Yeah I've seen it - it's a proto-Giallo (or Italian slasher). The version passed 15 would have been very, very heavily cut. As a 60's 'monster kid' horror film fan I'm probably not the person to ask whether things are 18 worthy It's a well made exploitation thriller - the 18 will be related to the sexualised violence.

It's not in the category of disturbing films occupied by Pasolini's Salo for example.

I see Salo was only classified in 2000. Pretty grim film, that one. Difficult viewing

18, of course.

 

[spliff]

I screened War of the Worlds in the 70's and got a phone call from a would be punter asking why it was rated 'X' cert when it was on TV on a Sunday afternoon two weeks previous.
I looked into it and it's down to the distributor to re-submit the films for reclassification, for which there is a fee.

 

[Lurdan]

Don Siegel's The Killers from 1964 is still 18 - last classified uncut in 2014. It's a violent thriller for it's time and I seem to recall some of that violence is directed at Angie Dickinson but I'm still a little surprised.

 

[Fez909]

I screened War of the Worlds in the 70's and got a phone call from a would be punter asking why it was rated 'X' cert when it was on TV on a Sunday afternoon two weeks previous.
I looked into it and it's down to the distributor to re-submit the films for reclassification, for which there is a fee.

Yep, apparently it's 50% of the fee for a new film. I don't know what the full fee is.

 

[spliff]

Don Siegel's The Killers from 1964 is still 18 - last classified uncut in 2014. It's a violent thriller for it's time and I seem to recall some of that violence is directed at Angie Dickinson but I'm still a little surprised.

I'm also surprised at that. Very good film.

 

[peterkro]

Ulysses (1967) was originally a X but the release version was cut to fuckery and I don't think they ever showed the original version,it's now 15 I think.Notorious in NZ as R18 and only shown to gender segregated audiences:

Ulysses (1967 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[8den]

Never forget a X classification was also sometimes good marketing. Lots of bums on seats for something "racy"

 

[Indeliblelink]

If you don't like that one then the next oldest is Dreams Come True, originally given an A cert in 1936, later awarded an 18 in 1986

No that refers to this 1984 film Dreams Come True (1984) - IMDb

I would of thought Blood Of The Beasts [Le sang des bêtes] from 1949 would be rated 18 but according the site it's a 15

 

[Lurdan]

Found a 1960 one - The Nudist Story aka Pussycat's Paradise. British nudist film originally classified A reclassified 18 in 2012. Genuinely baffled as to what this could possibly contain, beyond visible breasts, in order to get an 18 when Peeping Tom from the same year is a 15.

 

[spliff]

Never forget a X classification was also sometimes good marketing. Lots of bums on seats for something "racy"

When I was 15 they changed the age of 'X' films from 16 to 18 and introduced an extra tier AA =14 and over. Bastards

I still saw a fair few X's though, and yeah X is in sex, so a good selling point.

 

[Orang Utan]

Ye i know. What would today's version of Bugsy look like? It would not have Tallulah in it.

Why not? It's still performed loads in schools and theatres

 

[Lurdan]

When I was 15 they changed the age of 'X' films from 16 to 18 and introduced an extra tier AA =14 and over. Bastards

I still saw a fair few X's though, and yeah X is in sex, so a good selling point.

Same for me - I was just over 16 when the change happened. I'd actually been sneaking in since I was 14, and I can only recall being turned away once (at the Leytonstone Granada), but the sense of injustice burned deep.

 

[spliff]

Found a 1960 one - The Nudist Story aka Pussycat's Paradise. British nudist film originally classified A reclassified 18 in 2012. Genuinely baffled as to what this could possibly contain, beyond visible breasts, in order to get an 18 when Peeping Tom from the same year is a 15.

Looks Hardcore

 

[Reno]

Pornographic films are almost as old as the medium itself. They used to get shown in brothels in the early 20th century and they would now be rated 18.

 

[passenger]

great idea for a thread

 

[spanglechick]

I'd be interested in what the racey-est film is pre-Hayes code. My understanding is pre The Outlaw (or thereabouts) Hollywood was comparatively free and easy at times.

 

[spanglechick]

My own thought re the op was something like Faster Pussycat, but I guess that's all quite tame, by contemporary standards.

Or maybe The Man With The Golden Arm, but it's explicit injection scenes that makes the censors twitch, I believe.

 

[Reno]

I'd be interested in what the racey-est film is pre-Hayes code. My understanding is pre The Outlaw (or thereabouts) Hollywood was comparatively free and easy at times.

Baby Face with Barbara Stanwyck sleeping her way to the top and killing one guy without getting punished, is considered to be among the raciest ot pre-code films. Stanwyck was the queen of racy pre-code films.

 

[Idris2002]

Ulysses (1967) was originally a X but the release version was cut to fuckery and I don't think they ever showed the original version,it's now 15 I think.Notorious in NZ as R18 and only shown to gender segregated audiences:

Ulysses (1967 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Banned in Ireland, of course. Unlike Ulysses the book, which was never officially banned. You just couldn't find it in any bookshops or libraries.

 

[Idris2002]

Baby Face with Barbara Stanwyck sleeping her way to the top and killing one guy without getting punished, is considered to be among the raciest ot pre-code films. Stanwyck was the queen of racy pre-code films.

The movies' greatest Bad Girl. I'd watch her in anything.

 

[Reno]

Herschell Gordon Lewis's Blood Feast from 1963 is still an 18 (Uncut version last classified in 2005).

I'd go with this as the earliest non-pornographic film which still is an 18 today.