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butchersapron said:
No i didn't. I quoted your post and responded to it.
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The point is that uber are regulated and licensed like any other minicab service. The taxi industry constantly pushes fear of minicabs, I've even gotten LTDA receipts pushing the scare stories which is shocking when there is such a high profile story which rubbishes the black cab = safe myth. People in glass houses and all that.

In fact I'd feel safer in an uber car where there is a record of the journey, driver etc vs a random black cab off the side of the street - who can remotely lock you in the back at their own will
 
salem said:
The point is that uber are regulated and licensed like any other minicab service. The taxi industry constantly pushes fear of minicabs, I've even gotten LTDA receipts pushing the scare stories which is shocking when there is such a high profile story which rubbishes the black cab = safe myth. People in glass houses and all that.

In fact I'd feel safer in an uber car where there is a record of the journey, driver etc vs a random black cab off the side of the street.
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All fine - but not requiring your black cab rapist stuff. This does boil down to self-regulation in pursuit of profit and the idea that the most visible or motivated reviewers can and will scew that market. This thing is actually the idea that the free market works. Which is why peoples like ffsears are wetting themselves.

Where did you point out that they are regulated the same as minicabs btw? Did i miss that bit?
 
butchersapron said:
All fine - but not requiring your black cab rapist stuff. This does boil down to self-regulation in pursuit of profit and the idea that the most visible or motivated reviewers can and will scew that market. This thing is actually the idea that the free market works. Which is why peoples like ffsears are wetting themselves.

Where did you point out that they are regulated the same as minicabs btw? Did i miss that bit?
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I mentioned in post #12. But they're a high profile minicab company based in London of course they are regulated. If they were doing this without a licence they'd be shut down straight away.

Of course the black cabbies have been bullshitting and spreading fear beyond even their own legendary lengths which is why I can understand if you assumed they were unregulated.

The thing is if you're going to as an industry try and rubbish competitors it's best to pick something an area without such an obvious weakness.
 
salem said:
I mentioned in post #12. But they're a high profile minicab company based in London of course they are regulated. If they were doing this without a licence they'd be shut down straight away.

Of course the black cabbies have been bullshitting and spreading fear beyond even their own legendary lengths which is why I can understand if you assumed they were unregulated.

The thing is if you're going to as an industry try and rubbish competitors it's best to pick something an area without such an obvious weakness.
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You mentioned the cab had a sticker - not that all uber drivers are part of that regulation regime - are they?
 
butchersapron said:
You mentioned the cab had a sticker - not that all uber drivers are part of that regulation regime - are they?
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Yes they are.

http://driveuberlondon.com/faq

Uber said:
What are the licensing requirements to drive with Uber in London?
Uber works with Public Carriage Office (PCO) licensed drivers. At the time of onboarding, you will need to bring with you all up-to-date legally required documents. For yourself this includes:
  1. a valid driver's license

  2. driver's license counterpart

  3. PCO license.
For your vehicle you will also need to bring:
  1. a valid MOT

  2. logbook

  3. commercial insurance certificate

  4. PCO license.
If you are a PCO Operator yourself, just bring your operator's license.
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Why do you think they wouldn't be licenced like any other minicab operator in London?
 
They are registered for tax in Holland so don't pay any in the UK. A good enough reason not to use them.

FT article here
 
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Regulation is there to protect us! Without it we would have all kinds of problems in the financial sector, rail fares, the energy market....etc.

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butchersapron said:
Here. It wasn't very long ago.
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Nope still lost :confused:

I explained up above that Uber cars/drivers are regulated. The taxi driver in the article was lying by implying they weren't by saying "you wouldn't get on an unregulated bus".

So please stop acting like that driver and making up lies. Are you a black cab driver?
 
salem said:
Nope still lost :confused:

I explained up above that Uber cars/drivers are regulated. The taxi driver in the article was implying they weren't by saying "you wouldn't get on an unregulated bus".

So please stop acting like that driver and making up lies. Are you a black cab driver?
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I didn't make up a lie - you openly said that boasting of being regulated means nothing due to the black cab rapist. How you made a post arguing that regulation is meaningless into one that says regulation is a boon i don't know.
 
Nope you're spouting utter nonsense and putting words into my mouth.

I said "
Surprise surprise the black cab driver comes out with the usual 'unregulated' scare tactics. Conveniently forgetting that one of London's most prolific rapists was a black cab driver.
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I'll try and break it down for you.
  • The taxi driver implied that uber are not regulated. He was misinformed or lying. Uber are regulated.
  • I don't think that journalist got lucky with that taxi driver. Black cab drivers are famous for spreading shit like this the LTDA too. The taxi driver was therefore using the scare tactics that I've come across many times from black cabs and the LTDA.
  • The fact uber drivers like black drivers are subject to regulations which see them undergo an enhanced CRB check is great as is the fact their cars have to be road worthy insured etc. All great stuff.
  • Stuff you might think isn't the case from the quoted taxi driver.
So I think regulation (drivers having to be insured, have roadworthy cars, be police checked) is great. As I said earlier, black cab drivers using these scare tactics is a bit stupid when uber are regulated and even more so when it is one of their own and not a minicab driver who was guilty of such crimes. In fact it could be argued that if he was a properly monitored and trackable uber driver then he would have been caught much quicker.

Back to those LTDA scare tactics. I googled for the receipt I got but couldn't find a picture. I did find a blog post from someone else who got it though - http://londonfeminist.com/site/cabbies-safety-and-christmas/
 
I was listening to angry black cab drivers on LBC (where else) the other week moaning about Uber. They're basically just pissed someone's found a loophole around their TFL protected racket and clutching at straws claiming that Uber is 'metered' and therefore evading the law. I'd have more sympathy if I hadn't stood in a freezing London street nuff times trying to wave down a black cab who charge a fortune, are picky about going south of the river and more than enough times don't even know the street I tell them to go to - hello 'the knowledge'?

They need to get with the times and accept that they have a legally protected monopoly which is antiquated, inconvenient, impersonal, and expensive and guess what, just like everyone else they're not immune to the internet doing things better. Anyway, if as they claim they are better at navigating routes due to their 'knowledge' than uber drivers relying on sat nav - then by their own admission they'll be able to use less fuel and charge the same price.

Uber's great. You can actually chat with the driver instead of shouting over a diesel engine and a glass screen. You don't have to fanny about with cash or cards at the end of the journey. And you don't have to wait around in a dark street late at night - if anything its safer for women because of that alone.

In the US we have Lyft too. They have pink moustaches on the front of their cars and the driver fistbumps you when they arrive and lets you choose the music in the car. Who doesn't like cool shit like that? Uber FTW.
 
salem said:
Nope you're spouting utter nonsense and putting words into my mouth.

I said "
Surprise surprise the black cab driver comes out with the usual 'unregulated' scare tactics. Conveniently forgetting that one of London's most prolific rapists was a black cab driver.
"

I'll try and break it down for you.
  • The taxi driver implied that uber are not regulated. He was misinformed or lying. Uber are regulated.
  • I don't think that journalist got lucky with that taxi driver. Black cab drivers are famous for spreading shit like this the LTDA too. The taxi driver was therefore using the scare tactics that I've come across many times from black cabs and the LTDA.
  • The fact uber drivers like black drivers are subject to regulations which see them undergo an enhanced CRB check is great as is the fact their cars have to be road worthy insured etc. All great stuff.
  • Stuff you might think isn't the case from the quoted taxi driver.
So I think regulation (drivers having to be insured, have roadworthy cars, be police checked) is great. As I said earlier, black cab drivers using these scare tactics is a bit stupid when uber are regulated and even more so when it is one of their own and not a minicab driver who was guilty of such crimes. In fact it could be argued that if he was a properly monitored and trackable uber driver then he would have been caught much quicker.

Back to those LTDA scare tactics. I googled for the receipt I got but couldn't find a picture. I did find a blog post from someone else who got it though - http://londonfeminist.com/site/cabbies-safety-and-christmas/
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So regulation is an issue. Ok, we're in agreement. Eventually. Why are the regulations required sufficient to put your mind at rest? Are they stricter then black cab regulations? What sanctions can uber apply to their drivers beyond refusing to take their money? What sanctions can black cabs have applied to them? And centrally, by who?
 
butchersapron said:
So regulation is an issue. Ok, we're in agreement. Eventually. Why are the regulations required sufficient to put your mind at rest? Are they stricter then black cab regulations? What sanctions can uber apply to their drivers beyond refusing to take their money? What sanctions can black cabs have applied to them? And centrally, by who?
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At no point did I say I was against regulation and certainly not to the silly extremes you suggested. You made that up in your own head and after wasting my time have finally backed down so keep your eventually to yourself you tit.

Uber drivers are licenced, black cabs are licenced. They can both have those licences taken away by the licencing authority. The former are tracked much more closely.

I'm perfectly happy with a licenced police checked driver being in an insured and roadworthy car which is tracked through the whole journey. What else do you want?

If you're rich enough to enjoy the antiquated folly of a driver who can recite the names of a bunch of roads off the top of their head or a better paint job then a rolls royce or space to spread your legs out then great go get a black cab but leave the rest of us with an affordable option as black cabs are way too expensive for most people out of the city and in any case you rarely see them plying their trade outside of the city, suburbs like Hampstead or roads between the two anyway.
 
Nope you've lost me again - but clearly managed to derail the thread so well done there. Great bit of trolling.
 
From a consumers point of view. Uber offer a better service for a cheaper prices. Economics at its most basic form.

Uber all day long. (unless my phones dead and a black cab happens to turn up)
 
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The LTDA are all cunts. Fuck them and the big private hire firms like Ady Lee. Uber and the like put more of the fare in the wallet of the licenced driver and enable more people to get the journey they want when they want it. Fuck Steve Mcnamara and Bob Oddy and while we are here John Griffin too. Too many cunts/ parasitic cunts in the trade in London.
 
Took a cab in Scotland recently, got info on the type and colour of car that would be arriving to collect me 3 minutes before they arrived, think I got a charge estimate also. Might have been uber don't know but was slick!
 
I find this whole episode interesting. The ones usually complaining about unions are on protest and the ones usually backing unions are on here bigging up uber
 
tbtommyb said:
I find this whole episode interesting. The ones usually complaining about unions are on protest and the ones usually backing unions are on here bigging up uber
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And people would normally be talking about boycotting a company with a dodgy tax set up too!
 
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