Johnny Doe
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If we've got tickets from Blackfriars, can we get on at St Pancras? TIA
Train help please?
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farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
Try it and report back if you get caught.
Johnny Doe
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No dice, I've just paid £8.30 for the 4 of us from St Pancras to Blackfriars
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HaveMyPassword123
Coulda gotten the 63 bus direct for £6.20
Johnny Doe
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On the right train, no changes, with kids and bags, no hassle. Well worth the £2 difference
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HaveMyPassword123
Just thought i’d put it out there in case anyone else Googles this problem.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
Another vote for 'no'
it's simple - 'London Terminals' does not mean any terminus station in London, it means any London terminus that is covered by the fare to 'London Terminals' to or from the station in question, and it does not cover using the underground to get from one terminus to another (there may be odd special cases where it does)
The Thameslink lines are complicated in that there isn't an actual terminus, but broadly 'London Terminals' from the south will only take you as far as City Thameslink - on the old southern region it used to be 'London SR' which meant you could change trains and go to Victoria / Waterloo / Charing Cross / Holborn Viaduct / Cannon Street.
Not that I've tried to do it, but think a similar ticket from north of the river will only take you as far south as Farringdon.
If and when Crossrail (or whatever it's called this week) opens, there will probably be similar restrictions so you won't be able to do the cross London bit (e.g. East London to Paddington) on the same ticket as would take you to Liverpool Street.
it's simple - 'London Terminals' does not mean any terminus station in London, it means any London terminus that is covered by the fare to 'London Terminals' to or from the station in question, and it does not cover using the underground to get from one terminus to another (there may be odd special cases where it does)
The Thameslink lines are complicated in that there isn't an actual terminus, but broadly 'London Terminals' from the south will only take you as far as City Thameslink - on the old southern region it used to be 'London SR' which meant you could change trains and go to Victoria / Waterloo / Charing Cross / Holborn Viaduct / Cannon Street.
Not that I've tried to do it, but think a similar ticket from north of the river will only take you as far south as Farringdon.
If and when Crossrail (or whatever it's called this week) opens, there will probably be similar restrictions so you won't be able to do the cross London bit (e.g. East London to Paddington) on the same ticket as would take you to Liverpool Street.
RubyToogood
RubyTwobikes
Mornington Crescent.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
I'm impressed with 31 minutes from London Bridge to Gatwick.
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HaveMyPassword123
no, you don't have a maltese cross on your ticket
That’s irrelevant when the Special Journeys (Camden) Regulations are applicable.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Did you mime the Saxophone solo (not the one Bob Holness did) at Baker Street as well!
Taken by me July 2019.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
I used to commute on Thameslink coming in from the North for five years on and off and use it for leisure as well. My view was that you could get on an off at any of the stations between West Hampstead and London Bridge. I never had a problem with staff or machines in that time.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
It would depend what ticket you had
out of curiosity, i've just tried an enquiry on the season ticket calculator for st albans - st pancras.
cheapest is to 'london thameslink' (whatever that means), next is 'london terminals' which does include london bridge, next is london travelcard
i'm sure there is something that explains all this, like just what is permitted when it says 'any permitted' route. i think the document is available for inspection in the basement of an office on Alpha Centauri...
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HaveMyPassword123
It’s all easily available, and not complicated at all to check:
Routeing Guide Data | data.atoc.org
data.atoc.org
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
My experience is that London Terminals means the end of the line you are travelling on in London. I once got accosted by a TFL busybody who said I couldn't get exit at a sooner stop with said ticket. Very counterintuitive...
Johnny Doe
Well-Known Member
When 'it's simple' is the start of the 2nd of 5 paragraphs explaining it, it's not simple
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
i might not have been entirely serious...
Johnny Doe
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I might have gathered to that
Johnny Doe
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There wasn't (Travel day has been and gone too)
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
More train help needed. Putting 13 year-old on train at Clapham Junction to go to Portslade next Saturday to see cousins. The 0952h is direct but brings up a warning saying "Buses replace trains between Balham and Tulse Hill / West Croydon on Saturday 24 and Sunday 25 July."
ticket.southernrailway.com
The fact the warning appears suggests that it affects that specific journey. But the journey goes via East Croydon not West Croydon which is a different route I think?
The 'more information' link takes you eventually to this which is singularly unhelpful as the massive bus icon is sitting right over a couple of routes:
www.nationalrail.co.uk
So Urban hive mind - is my daughter's journey going to require a bus or not?
Booking Engine
ticket.southernrailway.com
The fact the warning appears suggests that it affects that specific journey. But the journey goes via East Croydon not West Croydon which is a different route I think?
The 'more information' link takes you eventually to this which is singularly unhelpful as the massive bus icon is sitting right over a couple of routes:
Welcome to the Official source for UK trains | National Rail
You've found the gateway to Britain's national rail network. The portal to rail travel, including train times information, fares enquiries; promotions; and ticket info.
So Urban hive mind - is my daughter's journey going to require a bus or not?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Via East Croydon and no buses mentioned:
editor
hiraethified
Keep you on your toes.So why do they alert you about engineering works that don’t affect your journey
Supine
Newt Member
So why do they alert you about engineering works that don’t affect your journey
it’s the engineering works they don’t tell you about that you need to worried about
