The Shard Tower in London
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If/when they ever sort out the Thameslink upgrade that'd probably solve that problem, as there will be a lot more trains through on that route.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Haven't heard of this upgrade! Are they going to start routing trains via places other e&c, loughborough juncion, herne hill, tulse hill, streatham and so on?
untethered
For industry & decency
Can I really be the only person on here who doesn't like it, or perhaps the only person who dislikes it enough to say so?
Crispy
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OMG alwaystouchout.com has had their account suspended! Where am I going to go for my london transport geekery now?
Anyway, wikipedia has a pretty good article on the upgrades: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thameslink_Programme
The major work at London Bridge will be a new vidauct to match the through capacity of the station with it's inputs (at the moment it's a massive bottleneck)
Anyway, wikipedia has a pretty good article on the upgrades: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thameslink_Programme
The major work at London Bridge will be a new vidauct to match the through capacity of the station with it's inputs (at the moment it's a massive bottleneck)
OMG alwaystouchout.com has had their account suspended! Where am I going to go for my london transport geekery now?
I chose the right time to get a new, non-transporty job!
Oswaldtwistle
Banned
OMG alwaystouchout.com has had their account suspended! Where am I going to go for my london transport geekery now?
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport.london/topics?hl=en is still worth a read, despite the spam.
davesgcr
Reading books
After 2015 - when Thameslink project is finished - there will be a cornucopia of trains to Farringdon from LB - between 10 and 16 per hour
Trains are limited in the peak hours because the cross each other on the flat at Metropolitan Junction - (and there are up to 28 trains an hour into Charing Cross) - the project sorts this out with some expensive bridges and extra platforms.
The down side is (apart from 2015) - is the disruption whilst its built !
Trains are limited in the peak hours because the cross each other on the flat at Metropolitan Junction - (and there are up to 28 trains an hour into Charing Cross) - the project sorts this out with some expensive bridges and extra platforms.
The down side is (apart from 2015) - is the disruption whilst its built !
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
Must admit I'm looking forward to watching a Renzo Piano building being built on my way to work every morning.
I might have missed the point, but direct trains from London Bridge to Farringdon start at 5.34am on weekdays, and there are usually at least 4 trains per hour until late at night. Or were you talking about the London Bridge to Victoria line?
hipipol
Peckham Wry
Those are the trains to Brighton and gatwick, big revenue earner for Thameslink, every 15 or 20 mines from v early as pointed out by Ackland. Jewel in their crown really, the bottleneck for them is also the Snow Hill Tunnel/Farringdon Junction - services split there to also allow trains into Moorgate. Thameslink used to run trains to catford etc via Denamrk hill and Peckham.
What a pity the old link from farringdon to Snow Hill was destroyed by piling for shite office blocks in the sixties
What a pity the old link from farringdon to Snow Hill was destroyed by piling for shite office blocks in the sixties
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I took a train from London Bridge earlier this evening, and while I was waiting for it I went down to the little fish and chips shop that's on the corner off Borough High Street nearby. Except when I got there it was closed and stripped out, along with the two shops next to it, which I presume is part of the works for the Shard or "London Bridge Quarter" as they seem to be marketing the wider development.
Walking back up to the station, I noticed a gap where there didn't used to be one, just to the South of the main station building.
I kind of haven't really been paying attention and hadn't quite realised that construction for this has, finally, started for real.
Someone said the other day that Shunt, in the arches below the station, was going to be closing in a couple of months - am I right to assume this is also due to the redevelopment works?
The official website, with jerky video and un-linkable Flash pages is here:
http://www.shardlondonbridge.com/
where they have a few images.
I'd like to understand in more detail what's happening at ground level, and to the station, though ... has anyone seen any proper plans published anywhere?
Looking at the press images, I find it hard to get particularly excited by what they are showing, although pretty much anything will be an improvement on the existing station concourse there.
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Renzo Piano is an architect I have a lot of respect for, but I hope he's going to have enough input here to avoid it becoming just another nice-but-dim bland commercial development. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the executive architects were to be Broadway Malyan, who are the ones responsible for the uninspiring development on the Southwest end of Vauxhall bridge.
Walking back up to the station, I noticed a gap where there didn't used to be one, just to the South of the main station building.
I kind of haven't really been paying attention and hadn't quite realised that construction for this has, finally, started for real.
Someone said the other day that Shunt, in the arches below the station, was going to be closing in a couple of months - am I right to assume this is also due to the redevelopment works?
The official website, with jerky video and un-linkable Flash pages is here:
http://www.shardlondonbridge.com/
where they have a few images.
I'd like to understand in more detail what's happening at ground level, and to the station, though ... has anyone seen any proper plans published anywhere?
Looking at the press images, I find it hard to get particularly excited by what they are showing, although pretty much anything will be an improvement on the existing station concourse there.
< click for giant imageRenzo Piano is an architect I have a lot of respect for, but I hope he's going to have enough input here to avoid it becoming just another nice-but-dim bland commercial development. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the executive architects were to be Broadway Malyan, who are the ones responsible for the uninspiring development on the Southwest end of Vauxhall bridge.
Crispy
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They're not doing too much to the actual station at the moment, because it all needs to be running in time for the olympics. Once that's out the way, the whole station's getting a done over, they're adding 3 new through platforms (converted from bay platforms), new concourse at lower level with access up to all platforms. Massive undertaking. But for now, I think they're just going to pretty up the existing concourse areas.
http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk/cms/pages/view/35
http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk/cms/pages/view/35
temper_tantrum
The beauty of the ride
If you walk over the bridge that leads from the bus station area to Guy's Hospital, you get a really good view right down into the construction site. It looks quite post-apocalyptic!
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I'm going to have to go back there in daylight and have a look.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Construction sites as
One of the best things ever was when building companies started putting viewing ports into the boarding around sites.
temper_tantrum
The beauty of the ride
There is basically a massive hole, with lots of twisted metal, and the side of London Bridge station (where the Boots & Woolworths used to be) has bits of walls and floors emerging from it, like something you would have seen in the Blitz. Mud and rubble and huge yellow diggers and men in high-vis jackets looking cold.
I think they floodlight it so that they can continue to work when it goes dark in the aftenoons. They certainly have a lot of lighting rigged up close to the bridge.
I think they floodlight it so that they can continue to work when it goes dark in the aftenoons. They certainly have a lot of lighting rigged up close to the bridge.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Well, it's a shame for sure. It's surprising that space hasn't been used for something more profitable already though - do you know what was in there before Shunt were using it?
it was empty for yonks.
there was a big NYE illegal rave in there a few years back and i heard it was being used for fashion shoots etc in somewhere grimey.
will be a real shame if Shunt goes, such a unique space for all kinds of weirdness.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Tallest hospital in the UK innit?
In Europe, actually. Guy's is kinda cool, in that brutalist way.
No, that's for the Thameslink work. There's an extra span of railway bridge being put in that way.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
The funny shaped bit at the top is a lecture theatre. I've been told it's quite easy to go up there, because students are generally coming and going so you probably won't be challenged - just take the lift to the top. I've not tried yet. The view from up there must be quite good.
Ah I see. That makes sense.
Gavin Bl
terrible awful baaad
True, but the Empire state building and the World Trade Center were built during the Depression, and when New York was near bankrupt, respectively
Had a quick look at the spot where they are going to build it, there was a veritable army of diggers there this morning. Quite exciting really, I remember watching the Gherkin go up - I get quite a kick watching them build something that size.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Well, good luck to them. The problem they might find is filling the offices because the City is going to have its balls stapled to the desk for some time. Tax payers of the world have now stumped up 15 trillion dollars in financial support.
I really hope they get to finish it before the cash runs out.
I really hope they get to finish it before the cash runs out.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
Tallest hospital in the UK innit?
Better than that... The tallest hospital in the world.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Heaven forbid anything should stand in the way of Britons' favourite hobby.
I'd have gone for 'heaven forfend' but yeah.
Crispy
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It's not all offices anyway. A large part is a hotel, more of it is apartments. THe offices are in the lower floors (big floorplates are easier to sell). Not that that makes it any more financially viable of course. But hey, it's not even British money being wasted, but mostly Qatari.
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