The Islamic state
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Wolfie Smith
Sociable Worker
They may well be displaying a level of brutalism unseen much since the days of the Genghis Khan or Nazi Germany, but they probably do have a point about Sykes-Picot. More and more I think that global capitalism is leading us all into distopia. The West carved up the world to suit it's own ends and of course some other people are well fucked off about it. Can't we try and wean ourselves off our dependence on Middle-Eastern oil? That may entail not driving our stupid cars around so much or something, but surely that is better than the alternative?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Oil? Wtf has oil to do with isis?
ska invita
back on the other side
i think wolfie is saying were it not for oil the west wouldnt have a century of trampling over the region, creating false borders, spreading death and destruction, and in turn creating a reactive radicalism that has today lead to the IS.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i must say they should revisit their policies on the arts and heritage
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I suppose the French invaded Egypt for the oil a century before it was discovered. There are more things than oil in this world. Reducing the middle east to oil is a handy way to go wrong.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
True, but it is certainly the case that concerns for the exploitation, security and strategic importance of the region's oil reserves have been the predominant driver of imperialist policy, interference and military action for well over a century. The resentment fuelled by such metropolitan hegemony is obviously one pillar of the impetus underpinning militant Islamism.
ska invita
back on the other side
at least the trains run on time
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Napoleon went to Egypt as part of a geopolitical game being played with the British Empire.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
what, roll doubles and go to the eastern mediterranean with a big army?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I'm thinking that folk like the alcohol sellers shown in the IS gaol might well require that the state looks at work-related re-training grants...unless they just behead them.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
risky
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Wow thanks for that.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Who needs oil when the Rosetta Stone is up for grabs?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Look and learn!Who needs oil when the Rosetta Stone is up for grabs?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
well, the IS's internal communications have just got more vunerable, the UK is operating the RAF RC-135 'Rivet Joint' Signals Intelligence aircraft over Northern Iraq. based at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus.
however, no one on the beach at Akrotiri has seen any big, black, glider-looking aircraft with very small USAF markings take off and land there, oh no indeed...
personally, from what i see of the IS - even adding a good pinch of salt to the media diet - they are an enemy, an implacable, serious enemy of humanity (in any of the definitions of the word), and i'd take the view that fighting them, rolling them up and utterly destroying them is nothing less than an absolute duty for anyone who wants to call themselves civilised, or humane, or who professes any concern whatsoever for those under them or near them. no ifs, buts or maybe's - i don't care what caused them, or facilitated them, i just see a group deliberately impose the most frightening, barbaric, murderous conditions on utterly innocent, defenceless people.
however, no one on the beach at Akrotiri has seen any big, black, glider-looking aircraft with very small USAF markings take off and land there, oh no indeed...
personally, from what i see of the IS - even adding a good pinch of salt to the media diet - they are an enemy, an implacable, serious enemy of humanity (in any of the definitions of the word), and i'd take the view that fighting them, rolling them up and utterly destroying them is nothing less than an absolute duty for anyone who wants to call themselves civilised, or humane, or who professes any concern whatsoever for those under them or near them. no ifs, buts or maybe's - i don't care what caused them, or facilitated them, i just see a group deliberately impose the most frightening, barbaric, murderous conditions on utterly innocent, defenceless people.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Could substitute the word capitalists for IS, and the analysis would still work?
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Seems to be their answer to most things. Caught worshipping another God - beheading. Caught selling alcohol - beheading. Caught wearing a loud shirt in a built up area during the hours of darkness - beheading. Walking around with an offensive wife etc...
tendril
Coming up blastin' like Yosemite Sam
well, the population of the world is nearing it's upper limit as far as numbers are concerned
To give the old Caliphate its due there was a railway all the way to Madina before the West intervened, fact: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hejaz_Railway
Sweet FA
✪ Three rounds Lord, in my .44 ✪
Funding/training IS from Saudi/Kuwait/Qatar?
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Ian Duncan Smith might get ideas ...
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
u r Mr Rabbit AICMFPwell, the population of the world is nearing it's upper limit as far as numbers are concerned
Really?well, the population of the world is nearing it's upper limit as far as numbers are concerned
The IS legal system does have the advantage of simplicity
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i hear cameron's trying to get hold of the is immigration minister to find out how he's reduced inward immigration to a trickle in the last two months
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