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Road closures will make a difference they have a lot of weddings, funerals birthdays, etc use the pub.
Owner is very concerned about them.
 
Something arty going on

Hero of Switzerland is the toy in a box of cereal, an empty bouncy castle, a shiny in a pack of stickers, the laugh you’re trying to hold in during assembly, a free buffet, a fiver on the floor, the conga at the end of the night, a guilty pleasure, a pint after work, a banana and two oranges in a fruit bowl, the fart you let out at the end of a date, a swear word in Scrabble, the cock drawn in the condensation on a bus, a porno in the bushes, the lump in your trousers and the damp in your gusset.
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Gramsci said:
I've heard the same. It may go the way the Canterbury did in Brixton. Gentrification hasn't reached LJ yet. So fingers crossed.
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What? You haven't seen the newly decorated railway bridge, still don't know quite what that signifies ?
But yes in general you're right.
 
Seems the HoS is going to be knocked down. Replaced by a block of 6 flats and a new pub. Anyone heard anything more about this?
 
It's frustrating to see that nearly 650 people have read the Buzz article today and at least 17 have then gone on to the planning site, but as far as I can see there's been no more objections lodged. I suspect that some people are baffled by the way it works.
 
editor said:
It's frustrating to see that nearly 650 people have read the Buzz article today and at least 17 have then gone on to the planning site, but as far as I can see there's been no more objections lodged. I suspect that some people are baffled by the way it works.
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I didn’t bother clicking through because I really don’t care. The Hero is not my local and it probably doesn’t appeal to many others that live locally to it. Areas have demographic changes.
Shame it’s not able to go like say the Effra Social, it was on it last leg as a conservative club but was revived by new owners.
 
madolesance said:
I didn’t bother clicking through because I really don’t care. The Hero is not my local and it probably doesn’t appeal to many others that live locally to it. Areas have demographic changes.
Shame it’s not able to go like say the Effra Social, it was on it last leg as a conservative club but was revived by new owners.
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Effra Social is an entirely different thing as it was never a traditional pub.

A lot of the people who use the Hero are unlikely to be as digitally engaged as the young incomers, nor would they want their pub turned into a DJ hotspot. Why are you assuming that the pub was struggling anyway? It's always been fairly busy when I've visited.

Their most recent Google reviews would also suggest they're filling a community need:

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i have been in the hero a couple of times lately, granted it has a bit of a run down feel but with the possibilty of demolition looming why is the owner/landlord gonna invest in the future ? the pub is not going to be knocked down cos of lack of customers but because the plot it stands on is being redeveloped, there is nothing that would put anyone off drinking there apart from their own prejudice, I will leave an objection fwiw but I get the feeling this is a fait accomplis
 
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editor said:
Effra Social is an entirely different thing as it was never a traditional pub.

A lot of the people who use the Hero are unlikely to be as digitally engaged as the young incomers, nor would they want their pub turned into a DJ hotspot. Why are you assuming that the pub was struggling anyway? It's always been fairly busy when I've visited.

Their most recent Google reviews would also suggest they're filling a community need:

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I'm trying to comment now.

I have a user log in for the planning portal. Its saying Im logged in. But if I try to do anything its saying "server error".

So I will have to do it all manually again. Put in my address etc etc.

Lambeth IT is imo dreadful.

No wonder people can't face commenting.

It takes persevering with Lambeth shambolic IT system.
 
madolesance said:
I didn’t bother clicking through because I really don’t care. The Hero is not my local and it probably doesn’t appeal to many others that live locally to it. Areas have demographic changes.
Shame it’s not able to go like say the Effra Social, it was on it last leg as a conservative club but was revived by new owners.
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I don't know if you live in LJ. Hero is right in middle of Loughborough estate. No demographic change there. Unlike Brixton.

In fact at early pre application exhibition on the estate the developers/ architect were telling me that building this big tower of yuppie flats would help, and I quote " kickstart the regeneration of the area".

Stuck in my mind as I was open mouthed they could say that here in LJ.

One of the upsides of my new neighborhood is that the gentrification regeneration of LJ by developers and architects hasn't happened yet. And the local population aren't at all keen on it. Not keen at all. Its rather refreshing to be on same wavelength with my new locals. No tortuous discussions on the pros and cons of "regeneration" as get here.

To be fair the developers/ architect after the responses they got from locals have dropped the regeneration angle.

I do use the Hero. Its a great pub. One of the last community pubs. Reminds me of the Albert when I first used it.

Also looks good. The bar and fittings haven't changed.

I agree with CAMRA description

Hero of Switzerland - London Pubs Group CAMRA
 
The developers bought the pub site a while back. From what I understand the landlord will, after taking a sabbatical, come back to run the new pub.

Well we will have to see.
 
I must say I was having to say to local resident few days ago that this proposed tower had nothing to do with Lambeth council. Such is the distrust of Lambeth council that privately owned proposal is seen as being implicated with Lambeth council. Who would be happy to see the area gentrified in the eyes of lot of working class residents. Pretty standard view I come across.
 
Had a read if this as I went to the public consultation. I see I'm in the photos.

Its the statement of community involvement in the planning application. De Rigeur now.

Its interesting reading.

Results were approx 55% opposed scheme. Approx 5% supported it.

Yet they are still ploughing ahead with scheme with minor adjustments.

They are saying the pub will be reinstated on ground level with elements of the old pub including bar.

So imo they are focusing on reprovisioning the pub to cater to same demographic as before in order to get the scheme through. A good tactic.

They have done some redesigning to stop overlooking.

They also to my surprise still put in a couple of gentrification arguments. "Positive impact on residential values" and the new tower being a new "focal" point for area. Tasteless in a 100% Council housing area.
 

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