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The Fall - new series on BBC2

yeh, very different from the x files!

So was Bleak House. ;)

Will record this and watch it when it's done, early reviews were good.

I like Gillian Anderson. After the X-Files rather than chasing Hollywood stardom like many TV stars, she moved to the UK and has taken on roles that make demands on her as an actress. She's had diverse and interesting career since then. Her performance in Terence Davies' House of Mirth is one of my favourites of the last decade.
 
i thought it was excellent. I keep being surprised by good drama on tele lately. There seemed to be bugger all not that long ago.
 
I thought it was a let down. Why bother setting it in belfast? - it might just as well have been colchester. The town has a wonderfully inventive vernacular and fascinating culture and cast of characters born of negotiating centuries of conflict and strife. But we saw none of this - just lots of young, well groomed, good looking middle class types and a few token nods to the troubles.
The killer is not convincing - he looks - and acts - like someone who has just wondered in off the set of hollyoaks. Imagine how terrifying/disturbing someone like robert carlyle would be in that role. I've recently been watching the complete Cracker on DVD and this slick made-for-export fodder suffers greatly in comparison.
Shame - as this could have been very good in the right hands.
Scully is good though - although her accent rather reminiscent of La Streep doing her Thatcher turn.
 
I agree some of the pre killing scenes are over the top and having a cute murderer doesn't excuse it.
 
I thought it was a let down. Why bother setting it in belfast? - it might just as well have been colchester. The town has a wonderfully inventive vernacular and fascinating culture and cast of characters born of negotiating centuries of conflict and strife. But we saw none of this - just lots of young, well groomed, good looking middle class types and a few token nods to the troubles.
The killer is not convincing - he looks - and acts - like someone who has just wondered in off the set of hollyoaks. Imagine how terrifying/disturbing someone like robert carlyle would be in that role. I've recently been watching the complete Cracker on DVD and this slick made-for-export fodder suffers greatly in comparison.
Shame - as this could have been very good in the right hands.
Scully is good though - although her accent rather reminiscent of La Streep doing her Thatcher turn.

Just seen the latest and thought you got a bit more of the belfast setting coming through, if ony in the threats the guy he's counselling makes and the types hanging around his street when he goes to visit his home to cover one of his scouting missions.
Think it has been quality generally. Get the point about the victims susie12 makes.
 
It's just like watching hollyoaks. Well sort of, there's at least 3 actors who used to be in hollyoaks in it. I've missed a few episodes, it looks polished but it seems to be lacking substance.
 
I thought it was a let down. Why bother setting it in belfast? - it might just as well have been colchester. The town has a wonderfully inventive vernacular and fascinating culture and cast of characters born of negotiating centuries of conflict and strife. But we saw none of this - just lots of young, well groomed, good looking middle class types and a few token nods to the troubles.
The killer is not convincing - he looks - and acts - like someone who has just wondered in off the set of hollyoaks. Imagine how terrifying/disturbing someone like robert carlyle would be in that role. I've recently been watching the complete Cracker on DVD and this slick made-for-export fodder suffers greatly in comparison.
Shame - as this could have been very good in the right hands.
Scully is good though - although her accent rather reminiscent of La Streep doing her Thatcher turn.

She lived in the UK till she was 11 and her natural voice has an english accent - she was interviewed on R4 the other day. I was very befuddled as had assumed her natural voice to have an american accent.
 
Just seen the fourth episode and it's going from strength to strength for me - no obviously weak characters and some good acting. Anderson just right for her role, convincing as a bright woman who does her own thing but nothing wrong and still puts others noses' out of joint just for that. The crime itself getting a bit murker too.
 
She lived in the UK till she was 11 and her natural voice has an english accent - she was interviewed on R4 the other day. I was very befuddled as had assumed her natural voice to have an american accent.

Indeed. She said in interviews she was picked on for her English accent when they moved from the UK to the Midwest of the USA and there she adopted a US accent to blend in, but her original accent is a London accent.
 
Excellent drama this. Watched the first three in one hit. First series I have seen for a while that made me angry I could see them all without waiting a week :cool:
 
Was it my imagination or did they do a lot of close to the face type stuff - I'm sure there is a technical name for it - but I was struck by how much of it was focused on close ups of the actors faces - to good effect I thought.
 
just caught up with this week's. i love it. Anderson is creating a really impressive performance. I'd like to see her character in a further series (where perhaps all the very obvious feminist stuff can already have been said and we can just get on with her being a really strong female character).
 
It's good. I like it. Having a killer not look like a killer is perfectly acceptable. I'm sick of watching shows where the murderer looks like a fruit and nut case and no one seems to notice until they nick him mid-slash!

Has some interesting side stories and characters too. I'd like to see Anderson's character reprised too. She can go to colchester next.
 
That bit where she (well, one of the victims first) goes on about Mosuo walking marriages tickled me too, as it's something I happen to know (gets a fair bit of interest here, as you might imagine) and even that was done pretty well. usually find if one of these dramas touches on some obscure topic you happen to know a bit about it gets it horribly wrong and so undermines your faith in the rest of it, but not here.
 
Why can't he be happy with just killing the annoying ones like his wife and the youtube girl.
 
I really like the wife. On Monday when she was with the girl who's baby was dying, I thought she seemed so credible and I was really moved by those scenes.
 
Theres is a lot of good stuff in this - its smart, interesting and Scully is great. Interesting feminist subtext around objectification as well. My original moans about hollyoaks look-a-likes and lack of belfast-ness still stand though - and the killer doesn't look 'normal' - he looks (and acts) like a male model.
 
I felt it was too much of a counterbalance to her husbands murdering ways, although his 'I wouldn't of killed her if I'd known she was pregnant' kind of neatly connected him to his wife.
 
Theres is a lot of good stuff in this - its smart, interesting and Scully is great. Interesting feminist subtext around objectification as well. My original moans about hollyoaks look-a-likes and lack of belfast-ness still stand though - and the killer doesn't look 'normal' - he looks (and acts) like a male model.
but that's interesting in itself: how do we react to a killer who is physically very attractive, who is - at one level - a good father, has a caring, nurturing job etc. it's more disconcerting than if he was a bit more anonymous. also, when he has his small bits of contaact with the women (handing back their wallet etc) the way they react to him is different *because* he's handsome.
 
but that's interesting in itself: how do we react to a killer who is physically very attractive, who is - at one level - a good father, has a caring, nurturing job etc. it's more disconcerting than if he was a bit more anonymous. also, when he has his small bits of contaact with the women (handing back their wallet etc) the way they react to him is different *because* he's handsome.
I had never thought of him as handsome :confused: I might have to go and have another look now.
 
Been and had another look. I don't think he looks handsome at all although he looks more attractive in the underpants ad. I suppose it's 'eye of the beholder' and all that.
 
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