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None of us are "normal", and none of us have "jobs".
We are all, without exception, dangerous hardened revolutionary street fighters and don't really want to get our pictures in either the papers or Special Branch files, thanks.
What's the EDL's take on this?
Offical page said she was a hero and stuff or something.
Any plans for a counter demo by them on saturday?
I know they're not very bright, but they wouldn't be that stupid. Would they?
Any plans for a counter demo by them on saturday?
It's be grand. Just imagine.
I’m up for going Saturday evening, it feels like it will be a great comment to make on our past ‘dear leader’ but more importantly for me it’s about what is going on now, plus I think it has the potential to be a brilliant laugh.
After some thought tho I’ve realised that I am put off by the police shit in the media, though I am aware giving in to threats is doing exactly what they are intended to do. It’s not that I’m a scared or intimidated so much as I’m feeling that I just can’t be arsed with their pathetic aggression, I cycle every day and I don’t need any more knuckle dragging hate in my life. Being in a kettle, however many good brothers and sisters are around you, you can’t escape the feeling that it’s like being forced to spend the evening with the most dim-witted bully in school, it just a complete drag and this is spoiling my anticipation of the event. I will def go Sat but need some wise words please.
don't get kettled!I’m up for going Saturday evening, it feels like it will be a great comment to make on our past ‘dear leader’ but more importantly for me it’s about what is going on now, plus I think it has the potential to be a brilliant laugh.
After some thought tho I’ve realised that I am put off by the police shit in the media, though I am aware giving in to threats is doing exactly what they are intended to do. It’s not that I’m a scared or intimidated so much as I’m feeling that I just can’t be arsed with their pathetic aggression, I cycle every day and I don’t need any more knuckle dragging hate in my life. Being in a kettle, however many good brothers and sisters are around you, you can’t escape the feeling that it’s like being forced to spend the evening with the most dim-witted bully in school, it just a complete drag and this is spoiling my anticipation of the event. I will def go Sat but need some wise words please.
bring a good book in case you're there for some time.
I'm also put off, mainly because it's in the evening. There'll be lots of drinking, banners won't show up so well in photos, the whole thing will disintegrate into a ruck.I’m up for going Saturday evening, it feels like it will be a great comment to make on our past ‘dear leader’ but more importantly for me it’s about what is going on now, plus I think it has the potential to be a brilliant laugh.
After some thought tho I’ve realised that I am put off by the police shit in the media, though I am aware giving in to threats is doing exactly what they are intended to do. It’s not that I’m a scared or intimidated so much as I’m feeling that I just can’t be arsed with their pathetic aggression, I cycle every day and I don’t need any more knuckle dragging hate in my life. Being in a kettle, however many good brothers and sisters are around you, you can’t escape the feeling that it’s like being forced to spend the evening with the most dim-witted bully in school, it just a complete drag and this is spoiling my anticipation of the event. I will def go Sat but need some wise words please.
don't get kettled!
seriously, though, there are moves preparatory to a kettle, such as a body of police gathering on either side of a road or forming a 'permeable cordon' through which people can drift for a few minutes before it becomes solid. keep an eye out for these. also, it's useful to have in mind one or two (preferably two) ways out of any situation, and to be aware of what's going on behind you. if you're with a friend you can look out for each other, and arrange a place to meet should you get separated. bring a good book in case you're there for some time.
I'm also put off, mainly because it's in the evening. There'll be lots of drinking, banners won't show up so well in photos, the whole thing will disintegrate into a ruck.
i think you should recall what mahler said to meinhof before the battle of tegelerweg, when ulrike wanted her car to be part of the barricade being built but didn't want to be nicked. mahler said she should park her car on the pavement where it would be out the way but also obstructing. i am sure you can work out a similar analogy for yourself which would allow you to partake to the limit you set yourself.I'm also put off, mainly because it's in the evening. There'll be lots of drinking, banners won't show up so well in photos, the whole thing will disintegrate into a ruck.
Not getting kettled usually means leaving the demo about 10 mins after you've arrived, in my experience the police permeable lines are already in place as the event starts and get sealed not that long after.don't get kettled!
seriously, though, there are moves preparatory to a kettle, such as a body of police gathering on either side of a road or forming a 'permeable cordon' through which people can drift for a few minutes before it becomes solid. keep an eye out for these. also, it's useful to have in mind one or two (preferably two) ways out of any situation, and to be aware of what's going on behind you. if you're with a friend you can look out for each other, and arrange a place to meet should you get separated. bring a good book in case you're there for some time.
i don't know which demos you've been to but i suspect i've been to rather more and the only demo i can think of where what you said is true was at victoria station against bush's visit in 2004.Not getting kettled usually means leaving the demo about 10 mins after you've arrived, in my experience the police permeable lines are already in place as the event starts and get sealed not that long after.
One thing that worked wonders once, take a pensioner with you, seriously, they let you out if you are with a frail old person. Everyone needs to take their mums! I'm a genious...
take the corpse of margaret thatcher with you then and if trapped go to a copper and tell him your gran's come over all poorly.One thing that worked wonders once, take a pensioner with you, seriously, they let you out if you are with a frail old person. Everyone needs to take their mums! I'm a genious...
the 3rd student fees demo, the police had a prolonged kettle planned from long before it started, I think they wanted revenge for the second fees demo, which was hilarious, watching a load of fat coppers being given the run arround by a bunch of school kids.i don't know which demos you've been to but i suspect i've been to rather more and the only demo i can think of where what you said is true was at victoria station against bush's visit in 2004.
another thing which prevents kettles is people being somewhat dispersed: specially if things are mobile. by creating a large perimeter it becomes more difficult to corral everyone. however, this is not the case in trafalgar sq which is relatively small.the 3rd student fees demo, the police had a prolonged kettle planned from long before it started, I think they wanted revenge for the second fees demo, which was hilarious, watching a load of fat coppers being given the run arround by a bunch of school kids.
Well the Apprectice boys are having a march by Trafalgar Sq. at 3pm with presumably a shower of pissed up engerland loyalists in tow.Any plans for a counter demo by them on saturday?
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Yes, I had been thinking of hanging around the perimeter or even of taking a prolonged walk between the City and Trafalgar square.another thing which prevents kettles is people being somewhat dispersed: specially if things are mobile. by creating a large perimeter it becomes more difficult to corral everyone. however, this is not the case in trafalgar sq which is relatively small.