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what's it like living here? the north/east part near the stadium (not too near the stadium though). it seems to be fairly well connected and fairly cheap.
 
Don't/haven't lived there but have worked fairly close for quite a few years. I don't really like the area...no decent pubs, no bookshops :). But transport links are quite good, and it probably would be cheapish...well London cheapish.

I've got a couple of mates who live there and like it. Sorry I can't be more helpful. I do remember that the time/place most likely to get mugged about 13 years ago, in London, was Bruce Grove station on a Sunday afternoon :).
 
had some friends who lived there for about 10 years - near the Broadwater Farm estate - said they had no problems - but when they had a kid - they moved to St Albans
 
I don't really like the area...no decent pubs
The review of this tottenham pub makes it sounds wonderful though particularly the last line:
I found this treasure of a pub in a small alcove off Tottenham High Road.
I was amazed of the cultural dualism of this little gem in Scotland Green.

The outside bar had the windows broken and was solely populated by people of an Afro Carribean nature The general consensus of the abundant revellers was complimentary to Irish bar staff who gave them a heartfelt welcome after their own 'watering hole " THE SWAN" had closed down.

The inside bar the "Traveller's Friend" was thronged by the young and old from the local travelling community.

I was told it was a Gypsy Wedding which is a frequent occurence in this lively bar. The King of the Gypsies.... John Frain..... paid tribte to the singer..DI O 'REA... barstaff and the man who will be fixing the windows.

I enjoyed immensely this bizarre and unique experience and plan to return when the windows have been replaced.
 
The Swan was quite near Seven Sisters - it closed after a woman (I think) was shot dead just outside :(. There does seem to be quite a lot of gang related nastiness in the area :(.

(I work in Edmonton BTW, which is the other end of Tottenham High Road/Fore Street)

EtA: Since the riot there has been a lot of money pumped into the area, so things will hopefully improve.
 
seven sisters is quite a way south from where we are kind of looking.... so more up towards where you work (but not so far as edmonton)
i guess i just want to find out if my wife would feel safe walking back from the station/to the shops (goes without saying i feel safe as i am tough), and if the whole area turns into a no-go on tottenham home game days.
 
what's the unwaged centre? there appear to be a few working mens clubs etc. Plus some community venue "T Chances" which is where the north london punx picnic is being held which sounds pretty cool.
 
The football team is OK.

An aunt and uncle of mine lived there for one year before moving to Boscombe. They thought it was OK.
 
My friend lives there with her husband and two children aged 4 and 1. They have a relatively cheap 4 bedroom house, still expensive as it's London but not sure they could afford the size and quality many other places. They also live very close to a park, can't remember the name of it. They've never had any problems and have been there at least 4 years. I think they're about half way between Tottenham and Seven Sisters, I always go to Tottenham as it has lifts and then get a bus outside the station for 5-10 min.
 
My friend lives there with her husband and two children aged 4 and 1. They have a relatively cheap 4 bedroom house, still expensive as it's London but not sure they could afford the size and quality many other places. They also live very close to a park, can't remember the name of it. They've never had any problems and have been there at least 4 years. I think they're about half way between Tottenham and Seven Sisters, I always go to Tottenham as it has lifts and then get a bus outside the station for 5-10 min.
sounds hopeful. which station do you mean by "Tottenham"? there is south tottenham, tottenham hale... the one most in the middle appears to be Bruce Grove
 
sounds hopeful. which station do you mean by "Tottenham"? there is south tottenham, tottenham hale... the one most in the middle appears to be Bruce Grove

Tottenham Hale. She has told me Seven Sisters is slightly nearer but there's not much to it and as I said, I am usually travelling with a pushchair so prefer to go where there are lifts. I'm visiting on Friday so I'll make a note of what the park is called as the bus stop I get off at is next to the park.
 
ahh you see that is all in south tottenham whereas i think where we are looking is more north tottenham. tho maybe we can look round there too.
 
lived there for 3 years ish.

We had some tremendous problems with neighbours. Alot of neighbouring boroughs rented houses in Harrigney to house overflow tenets. Their kids attacked our dogs when we were out, horrendous parties going on till 7-8 am(residental street) threats of violence when this was reported.

We also had some lovely neighbours. For example just after we moved in, we discovered the neighbour's kids were using the gravel in our front yard in a fun game called "lets stand on either side of the road and fuck gravel at each other". As you can imagine every car owner four doors either side of us fucking loved this. There was no point speaking to the parents so myself and my partner lugged about three bins of gravel out of our front garden while the kids gave us abuse. As a thank you another neighbour brought over a huge Indian dinner. Other neighbours lent tools etc..... But the general after a few years is the problem tenants drove everyone out.

Here are some pluses, cheap fruit and veg, loads of 24hr corner shops (you'll never want for polish beer or a pair of knock off nikes at 3am).

Downs. There are practically no restaurants. A little turkish place near the police station. A Italian near Bruce Grove. Thats it aside from shitloads of chick huts and bad pizza places. There are no pubs, there are boozers. And the high road is a no go on match day nights (and on serious london derbies I'd make sure you're home a hour before kick off).

It is cheap however. And the weekend we moved out 3 people were stabbed with a few miles of our house.
 
ahh you see that is all in south tottenham whereas i think where we are looking is more north tottenham. tho maybe we can look round there too.

Where she lives is pretty nice, and quiet, if that's what you're after. The park is good for children, I know there's a playground and a cafe in it and she sends her son to a local nursery that is dead cheap and will be sending him to school in the area too. I'll ask her her opinions on the area and post on Saturday.
 
lived there for 3 years ish.

We had some tremendous problems with neighbours. Alot of neighbouring boroughs rented houses in Harrigney to house overflow tenets. Their kids attacked our dogs when we were out, horrendous parties going on till 7-8 am(residental street) threats of violence when this was reported.

We also had some lovely neighbours. For example just after we moved in, we discovered the neighbour's kids were using the gravel in our front yard in a fun game called "lets stand on either side of the road and fuck gravel at each other". As you can imagine every car owner four doors either side of us fucking loved this. There was no point speaking to the parents so myself and my partner lugged about three bins of gravel out of our front garden while the kids gave us abuse. As a thank you another neighbour brought over a huge Indian dinner. Other neighbours lent tools etc..... But the general after a few years is the problem tenants drove everyone out.

Here are some pluses, cheap fruit and veg, loads of 24hr corner shops (you'll never want for polish beer or a pair of knock off nikes at 3am).

Downs. There are practically no restaurants. A little turkish place near the police station. A Italian near Bruce Grove. Thats it aside from shitloads of chick huts and bad pizza places. There are no pubs, there are boozers. And the high road is a no go on match day nights (and on serious london derbies I'd make sure you're home a hour before kick off).

It is cheap however. And the weekend we moved out 3 people were stabbed with a few miles of our house.
hmm despite all this we appear to be moving there now. the current tenants reckoned it was fine in the specific area and the neighbours were all very quiet so hopefully all will be well.
 
hmm despite all this we appear to be moving there now. the current tenants reckoned it was fine in the specific area and the neighbours were all very quiet so hopefully all will be well.
just reread that and it comes off too harsh on Tottenham. My problem wasnt Tottenham it was that we had the neighbours from hell.

But notes about pubs/restaurants/match day mare still stands, and if you're having kids you're getting out of there.
 
Champions in waiting.

Actually, the football team is relevant. The new stadium development is expected to lead to various non-sporting improvements in the area.
 
Champions in waiting.

Actually, the football team is relevant. The new stadium development is expected to lead to various non-sporting improvements in the area.

Hmmm Dubious about this. The same was said about the Market by Seven Sisters Station. Frankly Tottenham fans want to get in to Tottenham and out of Tottenham as quickly as possible, there's fuck all them living in the Borough. Can't see anyone wanting to redevelop that strip too far away from the tube.
 
Hmmm Dubious about this. The same was said about the Market by Seven Sisters Station. Frankly Tottenham fans want to get in to Tottenham and out of Tottenham as quickly as possible, there's fuck all them living in the Borough. Can't see anyone wanting to redevelop that strip too far away from the tube.
With the amount of cash being pumped into surrounding development I don't think it can fail to have an 'improving' effect on the area tbh. However... I'd not be surprised if that 'improvement' essentially took the form of gentrification, marketing it as a place with new designer properties in an 'edgy' area, following the template that's been used in a fair few formerly off-limits bits of London in the last decade or so. No idea if it would work in the same way in a place like Tottenham, but I'd not be surprised if that's the kind of idea in the planners' minds. The riots may actually have increased its market value for Nathan Barley and pals. I'm speculating though; happy to concede that as a crock of shit if it is.
 
With the amount of cash being pumped into surrounding development I don't think it can fail to have an 'improving' effect on the area tbh. However... I'd not be surprised if that 'improvement' essentially took the form of gentrification, marketing it as a place with new designer properties in an 'edgy' area, following the template that's been used in a fair few formerly off-limits bits of London in the last decade or so. No idea if it would work in the same way in a place like Tottenham, but I'd not be surprised if that's the kind of idea in the planners' minds. The riots may actually have increased its market value for Nathan Barley and pals. I'm speculating though; happy to concede that as a crock of shit if it is.
i would have thought anything of that nature would first have to creep up through seven sisters/south tottenham first... who knows tho. right now anyway it is cheaper than anywhere else in london that i looked
 
I lived near Downhills Park for a few years... Central/west Tottenham, nearer Turnpike lane (and several good buses). Highly recommend checking out that bit, bit quieter - had very good relations with neighbours etc. Park's very nice, and never really felt threatened round there. We lived about 10 minutes walk from the station, but the bit just to the east of Turnpike lane (Graham road) is pretty nice. Allotments, long-term residents rather than house broken up into shitty flats (although if you want a cheap shitty broken up flat you just go closer to west green road). The roads to the north of Philip lane are pretty nice too, getting less so as you get closer to Seven Sisters.
 
Downs. There are practically no restaurants. A little turkish place near the police station. A Italian near Bruce Grove. Thats it aside from shitloads of chick huts and bad pizza places. There are no pubs, there are boozers. And the high road is a no go on match day nights (and on serious london derbies I'd make sure you're home a hour before kick off).

Did you never discover the wonders of Jashan (Turnpike Lane)?
 
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